BFYB Sleepers

blueoval · 18-06-2005, 01:19 AM

What's your opinion of a bang for your buck sleeper?

a Corolla with a twin cam 2L?
250x-flow Cortina?
turbo ED?

Im just throwing around possibilities for a ride to have fun in that wont cost the earth. Maybe something like an EB fairmont with a dev3HL kit fitted?

Or a late 80's Honda civic with a 2L vtec motor and manual fitted?

Dunno, not sure, but tell me your ideas.

JADED6 · 18-06-2005, 03:59 AM

It'd have to be a ford Shav. Look at your previous rides. You know you want to..
An EB would be the way to go.
Even an EB-S looks pretty neat and can be had surprisingly cheap these days.

TURBOTAXI · 18-06-2005, 08:42 AM

EA-ED turbo with std ride height, bonnet protectors, sun visor, and a bowling hat on the rear parcel shelf. Oh, and make sure you get a few badges from motoring organisations fitted up front with the number plate.

**Stav** · 18-06-2005, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by TURBOTAXI

EA-ED turbo with std ride height, bonnet protectors, sun visor, and a bowling hat on the rear parcel shelf. Oh, and make sure you get a few badges from motoring organisations fitted up front with the number plate.

I have to agree with that..but even a little more to my personal preference....a fairmont ghia turbo with all factory options!!

LuvinmyEB · 18-06-2005, 09:02 AM

I'd probably go a Datsun 1600 (with the venetian blinds of course :hihi: ), then throw a 3.0L or a Nissan SR20-DET in it.

But the EB sounds good.

smoo · 18-06-2005, 10:17 AM

An 80s 325 BMW manual. No LSD could be a tho.

Dunno what the prices are like, but a neglected 265 Charger.

blueoval · 18-06-2005, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by JADED6

It'd have to be a ford Shav. Look at your previous rides. You know you want to..
An EB would be the way to go.
Even an EB-S looks pretty neat and can be had surprisingly cheap these days.

Am I that predictable? Damn

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Yeah I dont think I could go past the thought of an EB-D manual with all the fruit under the bonnet. I reckon you could get away with it all for under 10k.

BA GT-HO · 18-06-2005, 12:23 PM

White AU1 Forte 2nd hand for $8k and throw a turbo kit at it.

Oh, and leave the poxy wheel covers on for the maximum sleeper effect.

dansedgli · 18-06-2005, 12:41 PM

Is $10K your budget?

My EB came to about $10K but It didnt last very long, but it did embarrass a few HSV and FPV owners.

XDSLIDER · 18-06-2005, 01:01 PM

Best sleeper I have ever seen was a 1980 Toyota Corolla Wagon with a SR20DET(WORKED), it ran consistent 11.5's at Calder and rip one of the meanest burnouts i have ever seen.

BIG Luke

loxxr6 · 18-06-2005, 01:37 PM

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White AU1 Forte 2nd hand for $8k and throw a turbo kit at it.

Oh, and leave the poxy wheel covers on for the maximum sleeper effect.

yeah, an AU taxi , all turbo'd. stockies with wheel covers etc. taxi markings and everything.

EFFalcon · 18-06-2005, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dansedgli

Is $10K your budget?

My EB came to about $10K but It didnt last very long, but it did embarrass a few HSV and FPV owners.

but a few hundred $$ for another bottom end and it woulda been sweet again! :P

dansedgli · 18-06-2005, 02:07 PM

True! The good thing about the E series, a complete Lowish K engine is only $500 or so.

FRDXR6 · 18-06-2005, 02:16 PM

My favourite choices would be:

- EB turbo
- R31 Pintara Wagon with rb30et (just need to get VL turbo conversion parts)
- Old skool corolla etc with sr20det would hammer but may be too $$$
- As above but an old bluebird with sr20det, i saw one the other night and made me want to get one, heard a massive flutter looked around nothing it goes off again oh its the bleubird mad :1syellow1 turned out to have a ca18det in it which could be another option.

Heres a website with some frontcuts might give you a guide to prices you'd be looking at for Jap engines

http://www.japparts.com.au/products/stock-arriving.html

Paris Hilton · 18-06-2005, 02:17 PM

Peugeot 205gti + Peugeot 405 Mi16 donk, and you'd still have $2k or so for mods (if you get one of the cheaper ones, $4999 on carsales)

MrSparkle · 18-06-2005, 02:22 PM

Screw any X/E/A series idea, do something *interesting*!!!!!!!!

For a true sleeper, there are a stack of options that really don't have to be Falcons. Consider something like an early 80's Mercedes SEL (any model with over 6L should be fine), or a non-RX7 rotary, an older inline 6 BMW 3-series, an imported Toyota Crown (they are RWD too!), or anything inconspicuous that has been modified already with money spent on it. It really depends on what you are after, whether it's a tidy sleeper or an insane beast in plain clothes.

Psycho Chicken · 18-06-2005, 02:23 PM

Light blue EA wagon, dints everywhere, stock ride height, white door somewhere, missing hubcap, coathanger aerial, turboed

blueoval · 18-06-2005, 02:30 PM

thats it. Thats the thing with e-series cars, people have parts every where. They are comfortable to drive, relatively easy to work on, and cheap as chips if the bottom end gives up. Plus they look modern.

On the other hand, who would assume a stock looking white AU1 forte is a sleeper? That would really scare the crap outta a few HSV owners.

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They I would have it wouldnt be different from what you guys have already mentioned, but the only thing I would change is getting the stocko 15' steelies widened to accomodate bigger tyres for grip. You would get too far with ya 205's on boost from a standstill start I dont think. Then again an LSD would need to be invested in either way.

Yep a white AU1 forte wouldnt cost more than 7-8k in good nic. Slap on a ST1 or ST2 turbo kit from TSA. Invest in a LSD or spool and watch out, grandpa is coming!

The other option would be to do the above in an E-series car like a 4L ED with a 5 speed. It will keep the cost to below 10k thats for sure, and you could buy extra parts, motors etc to keep in the shed.

Thats my extra 2c worth

Paris Hilton · 18-06-2005, 02:35 PM

440 Hemi + Mighty Boy

Have a look at this...

http://www.mi16conversion.co.uk/mi16...sion-start.htm

GTFalcon 351 · 18-06-2005, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Selekta

Have a look at this...

http://www.mi16conversion.co.uk/mi16...sion-start.htm

Yep, these things hammer, same engine as my pug fitted to the lighter and more nimble 205 gti, went for a cruise through the dandenongs with a bloke that has one of these with a set of michelin pilot sport tyres and it was absolutely glued to the road

Paris Hilton · 18-06-2005, 03:28 PM

Guys in Europe are also using Drivetrains from 4x4 405's, and adding turbos etc...

brenx · 18-06-2005, 04:09 PM

Datto (1600/120Y/180B) with a SR20DET or FJ20 turbo ;)

GTFalcon 351 · 18-06-2005, 06:42 PM

Methinks a mini fitted with twin R1 motors ,weighing 650kg and good for an 11 second 1/4 mile would be heaps fun to build and drive

The MaDDeSTMaN · 18-06-2005, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by LuvinmyEB

I'd probably go a Datsun 1600 (with the venetian blinds of course :hihi: ), then throw a 3.0L or a Nissan SR20-DET in it.

But the EB sounds good.

You mean something like this?:

That would be sweeeeeeeeeet indeed!

bindi · 18-06-2005, 07:07 PM

Forgive me if I have repeated myself (I have the feeling I have mentioned this before). I had a friend who had the ultimate sleeper. It was a Toyota Crown, circa 1983 or something.

Ugly as. Nobody would look at it twice, even the cops didn't notice. But fantastic suspension, worked engine with turbo, beaut tyres and brakes... blew everyone away at the lights. Schweet

My car's a sleeper, looks like shyte but boy does she fly! Looks can be deceiving. I wonder what it will be like when I fix her up. This is the rolla I'm talking about here btw! The EA is a big POS atm.

Paris Hilton · 18-06-2005, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by bindi

My car's a sleeper, looks like shyte but boy does she fly! Looks can be deceiving. I wonder what it will be like when I fix her up. This is the rolla I'm talking about here btw! The EA is a big POS atm.

oooh cool, what's been done to it?

bindi · 18-06-2005, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Selekta

oooh cool, what's been done to it?

Nothing! It's amazing really. She's a stock 88 rolla 5 speed with a reco 1.6 in her which has done about 60,000km. She recently clocked 500,000 km on the original odometer (yes, I know the history of the car cos my mother-in-law bought her at 100,000km in 1992, then it was given to me).

Recently done: rear suspension (needs the front done now), new tyres and the rust is now gone. Needs much more done (I'm going to start after the Ford is fixed and rego'd next month). The list is huge, not pretty.

But she's such a groovy car! I'm gonna have to sell her in a while, which I am not looking forward to. I've had her for over 5 years now, it'll break my heart. I think she needs her brakes done soon (new rotors, new handbrake cable) - I just did the rear drums myself and the front brake pads but she seriously needs a reco'd carby cos she's backfiring a bit. Also I might have a look at the rocker cover as I think I'm leaking a bit of oil there.

Enough ranting!

old_mate · 18-06-2005, 07:46 PM

244 Volvo with 350 Chev

or a 142 Volvo with above engine

Seen a couple before, funniest cars i have ever seen

blueoval · 18-06-2005, 09:45 PM

how hard is it to put an SR20-DET motor in a old corolla?

blueoval · 22-02-2007, 12:16 PM

Sorry to dig up this old thread.

Who here thinks a turbo XE would be a good proposition as a sleeper?