Go Back   Australian Ford Forums > General Topics > The Pub

The Pub For General Automotive Related Talk

View Poll Results: How did you finance your new car?
added to the mortgage 5 5.75%
car loan 31 35.63%
through a business 7 8.05%
cold har cash 44 50.57%
Voters: 87. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 17-04-2014, 03:07 PM   #1
FormulaFG
Lurking......
Donating Member1
 
FormulaFG's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 449
Default How did you finance your brand new car?

I'm trying to figure out how to buy my first brand new car and I'm currently assessing the options available to me. Getting it put on top of the mortgage is looking the most likely option assuming I have enough equity.

The main other option is a car loan but that has a much higher interest rate and it will be a stretch as it is.

FormulaFG is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-04-2014, 03:21 PM   #2
bangm001
Mopar! But Own F6's..
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: F6DELAIDE
Posts: 3,186
Default Re: How did you finance your brand new car?

Do you need a brand brand new car? Unless you can claim it back as a company vehicle it doesnt make financial sense. But if you MUST have it then definately try to put it on top of your house loan. Home loan at under 5% vs personal loan at 9ish+%...
I voted above and managed to pay for my car cash, but that was because I had my house rented out and was still at home at the time. Try to save a big chunk of the deposit cash if you can, off setting it on your house loan while you save.
__________________
F6 TYPHOON
FPV 335 GT

Last edited by bangm001; 17-04-2014 at 03:26 PM.
bangm001 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-04-2014, 03:22 PM   #3
strobe
Regular Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 173
Default Re: How did you finance your brand new car?

Dunno what your mortgage situation is like, but (say) $50k at 6% over 25 years is about $100k, vs $50k at 12% over 3 years is about $60k. Monthly payments would be massively different, but I guess it depends how much you really want that new car.

Adding to the mortgage looks cheap, but you're paying for it (and some) in the end.
strobe is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-04-2014, 03:24 PM   #4
smoo
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
smoo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 3,041
Default Re: How did you finance your brand new car?

Quote:
Originally Posted by bangm001 View Post
Do you need a brand brand new car? Unless you can claim it back as a company vehicle it doesnt make financial sense. But if you MUST have it then definately try to put it on top of your house loan. Home loan at under 5% vs personal loan at 9ish%...
And how many people fall into the trap and put a 30+ grand car at 5% over 20-30 years vs $30k at 9% over 5 years thinking they're better off...
smoo is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-04-2014, 03:36 PM   #5
bangm001
Mopar! But Own F6's..
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: F6DELAIDE
Posts: 3,186
Default Re: How did you finance your brand new car?

True, but thats coz people dont put in ANY extra on the house loan even though they just put a car on top of it! LOL!
People need to be smashing their home loans right now whilst interest rates under under 5 %.
__________________
F6 TYPHOON
FPV 335 GT
bangm001 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
5 users like this post:
Old 17-04-2014, 03:44 PM   #6
turboclown
Banned
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 85
Default Re: How did you finance your brand new car?

Buy off a dealer doing a stupidly low rate instead of paying cash and bank the money if you can get a better rate is the way i did my last one. Went with the intention of paying cash, but a 2.9% rate was too good to pass up.
turboclown is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
5 users like this post:
Old 17-04-2014, 03:52 PM   #7
290GTP
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
290GTP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Fear & loathing in Shoal Vegas
Posts: 1,783
Default Re: How did you finance your brand new car?

Cash. It's a depreciating asset, if you can't afford it, don't buy it. Unless its for business purposes.
__________________


Mercury Silver 03 BA GT-P Tremec TR3650 Number 534


Herrod 4 into ones, Manta Exhaust, CAI, K&N Filter, Mellings oil pump, 19" FPV alloys, Bilsteins, Kings, tuned by Autotech, 272rwkw

RIP Fish 15/1/73 - 9/2/19
290GTP is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-04-2014, 03:58 PM   #8
SensationFG8
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 1,705
Default Re: How did you finance your brand new car?

As soon as we mentioned we were going to redraw on the home loan to pay it the dealer started talking about rates in the 5's.

If you can lock in a fixed rate at 5.2% or something like that over 5 years it's probably best.

We'll most likely go with the dealer finance because it spreads our money across more segments of the economy rather than just giving it to the bank.
__________________
Previous Rides
Bionic BA MKII XR6T 245kW I6 Turbo, 6spd Manual
Grey (yuk what was I thinking) AH Astra CDX Coupe 93kW NA I4, 5spd Manual
Sensation FG XR8 290kW NA V8, 6spd Automatic

Current Rides
Octane GTF SC V8, 6spd Manual, Manta 3" X pipes and hotdogs
Starlight Lotus Evora S 258kW SC V6, 6spd Manual
SensationFG8 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-04-2014, 04:01 PM   #9
sico
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
sico's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 516
Default

Only put a car on your home loan if you're desperate mate.
It's not a smart option, as stated previously.

Sent from my C6603 using Tapatalk
__________________
Current Ride: 2009 Lightening Strike FG XR6 EGAS ute.
sico is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-04-2014, 04:20 PM   #10
Franco Cozzo
Thailand Specials
 
Franco Cozzo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Centrefold Lounge
Posts: 48,742
Default Re: How did you finance your brand new car?

Both of them with cash, that I saved up from working.

Everything I own is with my own $$$, better that way.
Franco Cozzo is online now   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
3 users like this post:
Old 17-04-2014, 04:24 PM   #11
LG17
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
LG17's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Taromeo
Posts: 10,336
Default Re: How did you finance your brand new car?

Mine was cold, hard as well.
LG17 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Old 17-04-2014, 04:39 PM   #12
Franco Cozzo
Thailand Specials
 
Franco Cozzo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Centrefold Lounge
Posts: 48,742
Default Re: How did you finance your brand new car?

Quote:
Originally Posted by LG17 View Post
Mine was cold, hard as well.
Bet the Mrs is happy
Franco Cozzo is online now   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
4 users like this post:
Old 17-04-2014, 04:42 PM   #13
neptune blue
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
neptune blue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Victoria
Posts: 2,182
Default Re: How did you finance your brand new car?

As already mentioned paying interest on a depreciating asset isn't a good thing
New cars simply don't hold thier value
A very nice second hand one is the way to go and there are plenty out there
I just brought a immaculate 2009 Caprice fully loaded 70 thousand K on the clock for 18 grand, originally a $70,000 motor car

Unless you can claim it as a business expense or can easily afford it I wouldn't be buying new but at he end of the day its your choice
neptune blue is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Old 17-04-2014, 04:45 PM   #14
minheim
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 475
Default Re: How did you finance your brand new car?

Only do a mortgage add or redraw if you will increase your payments to match close to what a car loan would otherwise be. The safest way would be to have an automatic deduction paid onto your home loan for the extra amount. One advantage of the mortgage option is you will not pay a higher insurance premium like you would do under finance. As others have said if you let it get paid at the minimum mortgage payment the interest long term will be negate the benefit. If you won't be disciplined for the duration with paying extra then a mortgage option is best avoided. Also be wary of some of the low interest manufacturer promotions as many are based on you paying the full RRP.
minheim is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
3 users like this post:
Old 17-04-2014, 04:45 PM   #15
Franco Cozzo
Thailand Specials
 
Franco Cozzo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Centrefold Lounge
Posts: 48,742
Default Re: How did you finance your brand new car?

^ I've done the whole new car thing twice and if you're going to chop and change cars like I do its not worth it.
Franco Cozzo is online now   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Old 17-04-2014, 05:20 PM   #16
JC
Miami Pilot
Donating Member2
 
JC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: ACT
Posts: 21,701
Tech Writer: Recognition for the technical writers of AFF - Issue reason: Writing tech articles 
Default Re: How did you finance your brand new car?

For the GTE I bought last week, I got mine from beyond bank at fixed rate of 7.95% (8.24% comparative for the amount I borrowed, the term etc) for 7 years. It means I will pay $12k interest over the term, but since I got the car for around $15k under market value, I'm calling that a win - but my circumstances are probably the exception since I bought the car for essentially dealer wholesale price.

At the end of the day, you have money, and a life. If a new car is part of what you want, use your money to pay to achieve that. If that means you use it to pay off a loan, then go for it.

I'm great at paying off loans, crap at saving (one may be related to the other though). Our only loans at the moment are the mortgage, and the car loan. No credit card or other debt, all bills always paid on time.

Whatever you decide to do, enjoy the car, and enjoy your life. A life without enjoyment is existence only, not living......

Also, if you do the redraw option (and it is a good one since the interest rate is low at the moment), then work out how much the weekly repayments would be for say a 7 year term, and make those additional payments each week - paying weekly reduces interest overall, not by much, but enough to count when you have a 250k+ loan......
__________________
-----------------------------------------------------------------
The Hammer: FG GTE | 376rwkw | 1/4 mile 11.793 @ 119.75mph 1.733 60' (4408lb)
1 of 60 FG MK1 335 GTEs (1 of 118 FG Mk 1 & 2 335 GTEs).
Mods: Tune, HSD/ShockWorks, black GT335 19” staggered replicas with 245 & 275/35/19 Michelin Pilot sport 5s

Daily: BF2 Fairmont Ghia I6 ZF, machine face GT335 19” staggered Replicas with 245s and 275s, Bilsteins & Kings

FPV 335 build stats: <click here>

Ford Performance Club ACT
JC is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Old 17-04-2014, 06:16 PM   #17
Smoke Pursuit
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 22,880
Valued Contributor: For members whose non technical contributions are worthy of recognition. - Issue reason: DASH/bfiipursuit has been alot of help over the years I have frequented this forum, lots of thoughtful and informed posts, very much a valued contributor. 
Default Re: How did you finance your brand new car?

What ever you do don't put a residual on the loan.... Nothing worse then getting 5 years down the track and having to pay 30% at the end.
__________________
2022 RAM Laramie 5.7
2023.50 Ranger Wildtrak 3.0 V6 Premium Pack
2024 Everest Sport 3.0 V6 Touring Pack
2024.50 Mustang GT 10A Grabber Blue Nite Pony Package. Due Aug 24.
Smoke Pursuit is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Old 17-04-2014, 06:54 PM   #18
Auslandau
335 - STILL THE BOSS ...
 
Auslandau's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Melb East
Posts: 11,421
Default Re: How did you finance your brand new car?

Also ..... if you want a new car and you know you can afford it, do it. Nothing worse than thinking in 20 years time what you should have done and missed out on. If you can do it, good luck to you. Its great negotiating, buying, waiting and finally getting the keys. IMO it's an experience that every car person should experience once in their lives if they get the opportunity to do so. Some don't want or require a new car and that is no probs at all and can totally understand.

Also, as said above, big mistake on the house, all for the reasons already given.

Also having a loan that ends is also a great feeling. Even if you buy a $50,000 car and in 5 years you pay it off. You use the $25.000 (or whatever) when sold and buy a $60,000 car. Pay that one off in 3 years as the repayments are similar because you only paid $40,000 for it and so on.

I know you have paid the interest on it, lost on depreciation but you have used it, paid for it. enjoyed it as long as there are no regrets etc. If the repayments are affordable, done deal.

There are some good deals still out there. I am actually with BMW Finance for the Fords at present.



__________________
'73 Landau - 10.82 @ 131mph
'11 FG GT335 - 12.43 @ 116mph
'95 XG ute - 3 minutes, 21.14 @ 64mph


101,436 MEMBERS ......... 101,436 OPINIONS ..... What could possibly go wrong!

Clevo Mafia
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Auslandau is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
4 users like this post:
Old 17-04-2014, 07:29 PM   #19
P6LTD351
Blue Blood
 
P6LTD351's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: SA
Posts: 1,507
Default Re: How did you finance your brand new car?

I will be buying my first new car when the Mustang comes out. I was always against buying a new car, but the Mustang is something special to me. Add to the fact that I have no kids and my wife recently parted ways with me :( . I have no mortgage and savings in the bank. I will be paying for it in cash. I reckon it will be the only time I buy a new car, but I agree, it's an experience that everyone (if they can) should go through at least once in their life.
__________________
The Fleet
1999 AU XR8 4sp adaptive shift, Black, Momo T-bar and S/wheel, Bodykit, 17" wheels, Sunroof - 180Ks - THE DAILY
1995 EF XR8 Manual Heritage Green, Factory Bodykit and FTRs - 126Ks
1986 XF Fairmont Ghia 4.1L EFI Regency Red, trip computer, venetians - 163Ks
1979 P6 LTD 351, Goldust - 185Ks
1989 Mazda MX5, Red 1.6L, 5sp manual - 102Ks
P6LTD351 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Old 17-04-2014, 07:43 PM   #20
JAJH
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
JAJH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 1,198
Default Re: How did you finance your brand new car?

Just bought a 'new' FG Mk2 XR6 with 2,000klm, so as close to new as possible. New, they are around $45, I paid $28 from Q Ford Brisbane. I financed it with the dealer through Esanda at what I thought was a pretty competitive interest rate. Strange though, I cant insure it for any less than $43k with Suncorp as that's what they deem it's worth.

1st new car I have bought in about 10 years because of the depreciation, so I thought this was a pretty good deal.
__________________
FROZEN WHITE XR5 TURBO & MOONDUST SILVER XR5 TURBO

PREVIOUS RIDES
AU3 VENOM RED XR8, 19" SILVER ARGENTS, REBEL BODY KIT & 6/4 BREMBOS
MARS RED FG MK2 XR6 ECOLPI, SILVER ARGENT 19" RIMS & TINT
BLOOD ORANGE BA GTP, QUAD EXHAUST, SUNROOF, CHIPPED, SS CAI, 320KW
NAROOMA BLUE AU3 HERROD XR8- SS CAI, TS RIMS, 6/4 BREMBOS, TWIN SPOILER, REBEL BODY KIT & TUNED BY ELITE
VENOM GTP, HERROD EXHAUST, DVD PLAYER, WINDOW TINT, SS CAI, STEALTH
VENOM AU11 TE50, HERROD LOWERED, HEADERS AND EXHAUST
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
JAJH is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-04-2014, 07:54 PM   #21
Kieron
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Perth WA
Posts: 1,204
Default Re: How did you finance your brand new car?

With extending the mortgage, it's alwasy worth looking at whats currently available and swapping to a new mortgage, just like you wold shop around for the cheapest fuel cost. But while your at it, look for a mortgage offset account too.

You might end up with a cheaper % rate, wrap your new car purchase into the loan and have your salary payed directly into the mortgage offset, this way your money is always working against your mortgage and effectively, your car loan, just have to make sure you don't spend it. Definately need to do the sums on this though.

The other option for a new car of course is a novated lease. You certainly need to do the sums and it depends on what you want to do with the car but it may well be that you want to change cars every 5 years ( I certainly get itchy feet around 5 years), novated lease it for 5 years then re-novate again
Kieron is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-04-2014, 07:59 PM   #22
Mulga
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Mulga's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Sydney
Posts: 510
Default Re: How did you finance your brand new car?

I'll chip in with another scenario........why use say $40k of the cold hard cash or your life savings when you can pick-up 2.9% finance deals. Why would'nt you invest the $40k in a term deposit or better still top up your super. The interest you earn will more than offset the interest paid on the car. It's about individual circumstances, I'm just saying that paying straight out with cash is not always the most logical solution.....it's about the market conditions and cost of money at the time of buying the car.
Mulga is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
4 users like this post:
Old 17-04-2014, 08:11 PM   #23
747jet
2 4 turning 2 4 burning
 
747jet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: in a house
Posts: 844
Default Re: How did you finance your brand new car?

CASH only here
__________________
im still driving like im 18
747jet is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Old 17-04-2014, 08:25 PM   #24
FocusLX06
Regular Member
 
FocusLX06's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Queensland, Australia
Posts: 167
Default Re: How did you finance your brand new car?

Personal loans that I Salary Sacrifice here. I make up the cost of the interest in reduced tax anyways, benefits of working for a Not-for-profit.
__________________
Current car: 2022 Escape st-line - Previous Fords: 2006 Focus, 2009 FG XR6T, 2009 Focus, 2012 Focus, 2016 Territory
FocusLX06 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-04-2014, 08:34 PM   #25
LASTXR
Regular Member
 
LASTXR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: St Clair. SYDNEY
Posts: 465
Default Re: How did you finance your brand new car?

We did the 2.9% finance deal.

XR6 $34.000 drive away no more to pay
10% deposit $3400 & borrowed the rest.
Loan term = 4 years
Total interest = around $950
Thats less then $250 a year

Why would tou pay cash
LASTXR is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
5 users like this post:
Old 17-04-2014, 08:45 PM   #26
black13
born to be mild
 
black13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: adelaide
Posts: 124
Default Re: How did you finance your brand new car?

Quote:
Originally Posted by marv&ro View Post
We did the 2.9% finance deal.

XR6 $34.000 drive away no more to pay
10% deposit $3400 & borrowed the rest.
Loan term = 4 years
Total interest = around $950
Thats less then $250 a year

Why would tou pay cash
cause you own it, you can go **** up in that 4 yr period,
black13 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-04-2014, 08:50 PM   #27
Auslandau
335 - STILL THE BOSS ...
 
Auslandau's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Melb East
Posts: 11,421
Default Re: How did you finance your brand new car?

.... and if you go **** up in that 4 yr period. then use your cash? But in the meantime use other peoples money to buy things and let your cash work for you.



__________________
'73 Landau - 10.82 @ 131mph
'11 FG GT335 - 12.43 @ 116mph
'95 XG ute - 3 minutes, 21.14 @ 64mph


101,436 MEMBERS ......... 101,436 OPINIONS ..... What could possibly go wrong!

Clevo Mafia
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Auslandau is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Old 17-04-2014, 08:53 PM   #28
buggerlugs
If it ain't broke........
Donating Member1
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Sunshine Coast Qld
Posts: 18,395
Default Re: How did you finance your brand new car?

Cash, If I can't afford it, I don't get it..............
__________________
Visitors welcome
Relatives by appointment only
buggerlugs is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Old 17-04-2014, 08:53 PM   #29
Nova 8
...
 
Nova 8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 464
Default Re: How did you finance your brand new car?

Cash.

Personally I don't care how people pay for their car, if you want a new car and can afford to spend the cash or pay a loan then get it. What's 20k over 5-7 years for the enjoyment of owning something you really want. One of my other hobbies is aquarium keeping, it costs me a mint each year and I make no money off it but I enjoy it deeply.
__________________
It's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Nova 8 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 17-04-2014, 08:55 PM   #30
LASTXR
Regular Member
 
LASTXR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: St Clair. SYDNEY
Posts: 465
Default Re: How did you finance your brand new car?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Auslandau View Post
.... and if you go **** up in that 4 yr period. then use your cash? But in the meantime use other peoples money to buy things and let your cash work for you.
Spot on.
My money is working very well for us at the moment
LASTXR is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
This user likes this post:
Reply


Forum Jump


All times are GMT +11. The time now is 01:25 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Other than what is legally copyrighted by the respective owners, this site is copyright www.fordforums.com.au
Positive SSL