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http://www.themotorreport.com.au/517...-for-five-more
Ford's 'Barra' inline six-cylinder petrol engine will remain an option for buyers "until at least 2016", Federal Industry Minister Kim Carr confirmed today. |
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good news for the broadmedows plant i assume... but is that suggesting the duratech v6 will replace it when the fg series gets replaced around 2016?
also curious.. will the fg II feature a more refined barra with higher peak power, torque and better economy or will it run the current 195 setup? does any have any info to shed some light on this, has ford released any statements yet or will we have to wait till october? |
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Perhaps start using the amazing 2.7 diesel from the Jaguar that Ford is accessing for the Territory...?
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Ford can confirm the I-6 until 2016 but getting people to buy it is another thing.
With rising fuel costs that formerly impressive 9.9 l/100 km now looks very ordinary. 8 l/100 km is the new efficiency target, Falcon will get there is with Ecoboost or better still, heavily promote the virtues of EcoLPI and the power of a big six that costs a pittance to run. It's such shame that private buyers don't like buying factory LPG, that's the perfect answer So let's Hope EcoLPI changes that short sighted consumer view.... |
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Edit: I originally said a $50 voucher but maybe it won't need $50 to fill an EcoLPI, lol. And maybe bring back a new version of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4T_IhTviZo Last edited by Dr Smith; 12-05-2011 at 06:44 PM. |
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They certainly need to start pulling punches.
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Follow it up with a billboard of a LPG Falcon towing a car trailer with one of the cars that ran out of fuel. Ideally a smaller car like a Mazda 3 or Corolla. Dan |
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with 3.0 SIDI zippy cane toad up against the EcoLPI Falcon.... |
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It would be good if they could get the I6 into another vehicle. Obviously that aircraft tug proposal out of China came to nothing.
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If it isnt available everywhere that could be a killer for many people. |
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It's a real shame there won't be a LPG Territory or wagon featuring this new Tech with fuel and diesel costs heading north at the moment..
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Disappointing if it goes until 2016 without any upgrades. Market suicide; with dwindling market share, the engine will get less and less relevant if it remains in it's current format. Holden will upgrade the Alloytec and Toyota will no doubt have a DI version of the 2GR in the imminent Aurion/Camry.
What wouldn't hurt is a few revisions like Direct Injection and Stop-Start, electric water pump and maybe a shorter stroke version .Otherwise it will succumb to the law of diminishing returns and it won't sell enough to see 2016. Surely this would make for an ideal engine in top-line Ranger,no? I'm sure some within Ford Oz had a passing thought while they were involved with T6... I wonder if a delete option 2.0 GDi (Ecoboost sans turbo) version would increase market share ; obviously market positioning is less than ideal at the moment why not exploreevery option!? |
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Yes LP Gas is available every where
we drove from Brisbane to melbourne and return in a V8 NC Fairlane which was gas only and never had a problem with fuel there were lots of servos selling LPG John |
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EcoLPI, Ecoboost I-4 and V6 diesel should all be part of Falcon's strategy going forward... I believe the V6 diesel option in Territory is about $3,000, imagine a 6.5-7.0 l/100 km Falcon... |
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By the way Broken Hill has 6 outlets selling LPG. As well as Menindee and Wilcannia. Mt Isa has 3 outlets selling LPG. As well as 2 in Cloncurry, 1 in Camooweal, 1 in McKinlay and 1 at Four Ways. Edit: Beaten to the punch. Availability is not an issue. |
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Dare I stick my head up and say that a twin turbo four cylinder diesel would be perfectly adequate for maybe 75% of ordinary car buyers?
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Umm, I was asking if it was available everywhere, not stating that it wasn't available everywhere.
Big difference. |
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A turbo 4 may be perfectly adequate for 75% of buyers...but Ford have given the I6 the golden ticket for the next 5 years so we're pretty happy about that. It would be even better if it found homes elsewhere.
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and that why I provided the link above so you could check out locations for yourself. |
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Good thing I had filled ... and I was loaded coming back ... Wagga to Campbellown is about 410km ... the area that had no LPG was a stretch of about 260km .... I was close to needing to be topped up when I got to Campbelltown (due to load and drag on the highway with what i was carrying). This is the only main drawback to running LPG ... as supply is not always available ... and this being on a major highway going to the major 24 hour truck stops as well (expecting to be able to access LPG no problems).
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