Old v's New GT

[lownloud]

Ok this has probably been done to death but I wasn't listening....

I'm selling and old school GT (XW) and am thinking of perhaps picking up a new GT. My question is whether the new versions give you a real kick in the backside when you drive them. I'm thinking manual.
The only frame of reference I have is a mates BA V8 Fairmont auto with big pipes that made a lot of noise and went well.....Well, that's what the guages said! There just seemed to be a lack of "throw you back in seat" about it until it hit about 3500rpm. It's an very nice car just missing the drama of the old school ride!
Thanks in advance.

[Smoke Pursuit]

Wait for the new Model thats coming out in a few months time, it will perform better then the current one no doubt.

[WASP]

What type of spec XW GT do you have? It would be a shame to sell it even for a new GT. The modern ones are more refined which tends to take some of the drama out of the V8 experience plus the newer engines tend to produce their best torque further up the rev range. My modern day GT provides that 'drama' rush among other things you are after but it's highly modified.

[Steffo]

If you're gonna get a new performance Falcon, get an FPV F6 Typhoon. It's the car the GT wishes it was.

[sleekism]

Originally Posted by Steffo

If you're gonna get a new performance Falcon, get an FPV F6 Typhoon. It's the car the GT wishes it was.

Not everyone likes the sound of vacuum cleaner.

[Fev]

the F6 doesnt have muhc of that whooooshhhhh sound though..

[TS50]

THe F6 is not, nor will it ever be a GT
F6 is a quick civilized car
Miss that V8 noise tho

[XBROO]

Unless the BA/F is modified it will never have that old school grunt. Because the power dosen't come in to later. I've run a fairly stock clevo with healthy compression and a cam that makes power to 5500rpm and it seem to be able to pull away from my mates GT-P which is totally standard. But I still don't know why you'd want to get rid of an XWGT to go to a new GT. :

[T3ts50]

Take both GT and F6 for a test drive then jump into your GT and see how they all compare to one another.

[XR6 Hulk]

The NEw GT probably has 50% more power than the old GT,and is quicker too. What are people going on about.

the old GT is a collectible car but you cant compare performance to the new GT. Its not in the same universe. But its rare and collectible and in 10 years time, the old GT probably still worth more than a 2008 GT.

[TS50]

Originally Posted by XR6 Hulk

The NEw GT probably has 50% more power than the old GT,and is quicker too. What are people going on about.

True, the new GT's have more power than the old school GT's, but they are also a fair bit heavier too.
And then there is the feel from the drivers seat. Old School GT's feel faster, because they are noiser (great noise it is too), they are rough, they are far from refined like the BA / BF Gt's are.
End of the day its not just about how fast it goes from A to B, its how it feels, does it feel like a muscle car, or a boulevard cruiser

[jcxr]

You will really miss the brakes,lousy handling, uncomfortable seats, poor economy, arrrrrr the good old days

[Whitey-AMG]

Originally Posted by jcxr

You will really miss the brakes,lousy handling, uncomfortable seats, poor economy, arrrrrr the good old days

Funny that.........

I sold my 1982 XE ESP 351 about a year ago and put my bum into a new BFGT.

I very much miss tinkering with the old car every weekend. The smell , the creaks, the look and feel of the whole package. The brakes were very bad and always had you on edge. It is all these characteristics which had you so much more involved in the driving of the car.............I'm not saying that's its a positive.............it's just that I felt so much more in tune with the older car...........listening to every bit of lifter noise, constantly looking at the temp gauge, worried about the brakes at speed.........etc etc.

The old car was heavily modified so it was on a performance edge and was a very quick point to point street car............very tough, angry and loud.

The new GT is a beautiful car to drive. It aint as nimble point to point because it is some 300Kg heavier, but it is a much better car all round......EASY. The TOP END rush of the BOSS is awesome and something even the modified CLEVO couldn't match. The driving experience is very clinical and almosr perferct with no creaks , no groans, no mechanical thrashing of reciprocating parts and the BREMBO brakes give F1 eyes out of the socket deceleration capabilities.

I still get the thumbs up from heaps of onlookers and the occasional pompous stare from the CAMRY drivers...........


You'll be happy with the new GT........NO DOUBT......the performance enhancements available now for the BOSS leave the OLD school CLEVO in the dust for "all round driveability".........You can have a 12 - 13 second street car that you can idle in traffic for hours with the air con spinning or you can have a lethal track weapon at your disposal whenever you feel.........we finally have a choice..........Jeckyl or Hyde all in one..........you decide.


Life in the new GT is still good...........but like an old friend.........I miss the old ESP.

I wish I could have both.............You will too if you sell up.

[Pinkbits]

Originally Posted by jcxr

You will really miss the brakes,lousy handling, uncomfortable seats, poor economy, arrrrrr the good old days

Too true.
But back in those days you had to have a certain amount of skill to drive them

Insufficient rear demisters or lack of, no intermittent wipers...........................
Ahhhhh memories!

[FTE19]

Originally Posted by lownloud

Ok this has probably been done to death but I wasn't listening....

I'm selling and old school GT (XW) and am thinking of perhaps picking up a new GT. My question is whether the new versions give you a real kick in the backside when you drive them. I'm thinking manual.
The only frame of reference I have is a mates BA V8 Fairmont auto with big pipes that made a lot of noise and went well.....Well, that's what the guages said! There just seemed to be a lack of "throw you back in seat" about it until it hit about 3500rpm. It's an very nice car just missing the drama of the old school ride!
Thanks in advance.

Take one for a drive and also find a AU111 T series (5.6 stroker) and then make your choise after driving both , the T series still gives you the kick in the bum and has a rawness about itself also .

[vanman_75]

only sell the old gt if you have had enough of looking after her and really need the cash . they dont compare at all the modern power thing has already been done .my old girl will never be sold . if you can buy the new 1 they are an awesome ride but dont compare its like compareing the missus to the girls in the mags you think it but dont say it ? 1 you can love forever, 1 might be a short love, and you will never get the old love back.

[4Vman]

Originally Posted by lownloud

Ok this has probably been done to death but I wasn't listening....

I'm selling and old school GT (XW) and am thinking of perhaps picking up a new GT. My question is whether the new versions give you a real kick in the backside when you drive them. I'm thinking manual.
The only frame of reference I have is a mates BA V8 Fairmont auto with big pipes that made a lot of noise and went well.....Well, that's what the guages said! There just seemed to be a lack of "throw you back in seat" about it until it hit about 3500rpm. It's an very nice car just missing the drama of the old school ride!
Thanks in advance.

It depends what you'll do with it, daily driver or weekend toy? Keep the XWGT id say! although if you sell it you could probably buy a new BFGT new F6 and a T3 with what you'll get for it!!

[ebxr8240]

Well said !!!!

[metalmania]

Very hard choice knowing how much you could get for the XW GT. Like 4V man said you could probably buy those cars and have change left over.I have owned my XA GT for 23 years and if i ever sold it, i take the view that i will take the money and get out of that scene (old school Gts).
If you are seriously contemplating selling your GT , that is a very hard choice . Will the values go up ? , Will they go down ? Should i take the money now or wait and see if they go up ? Your choice but for most of us i would say once they are gone that is it , you prabaly won't buy another again.

[XBROO]

Thats so true. I have an XBGT and I wouldn't sell it for anything. I like the new GTs and love to have one but can only afford a BA XR6 as a family car and its a nice car but it's no GT-P. But in saying that I would never buy a GT-P or a F6 if it ment getting rid of the hardtop. Like old mate said you will never be able to get another or have to pay an arm and a leg to get another and it proberly won't be as good as the one you already got. Put it this way when you drive down the street how many other XWGTs do you run into, and how many Bseries GTs do you see. :

[needaXYGT]

Keep the XW. Most people who sell that kind of car regret selling it! Isay spend some money on the XW and get something for everyday use!

[Silver Ghia]

XW will only go up in value, also has more character. New GT will only go down in value, until perhaps after many years if you keep it, it may go back up.