Have I lost my license?

[svo supporter]

Originally Posted by buddy92

Then how the hell did I lose 3?

I had a cracked P plate that had fallen behind my number plate on front, which you could still partly see the P.

And none on the rear.

Yet I lost 3 points?

Ask the RTA, or who ever is in charge of the licencing in your neck of the woods.

[buddy92]

Originally Posted by svo supporter

Ask the RTA, or who ever is in charge of the licencing in your neck of the woods.

I will.

[svo supporter]

When your licence is cancelled, they provide you with a list of offenses and when they occurred. They also provide the list of the number of demerit points each offense attracts. Either that, or you can ask and they must provide this information to you.

Re-reading a few things you have said, the police can book you for not displaying your P-plates correctly....ie having the P-plate particially blocked is an offense. They can also book you for not displaying P-plates period. Whether they're 2 seperate offenses or not, I have no idea.

So a bit more for you to look at

[Dave R]

Originally Posted by buddy92

Then how the hell did I lose 3?

I had a cracked P plate that had fallen behind my number plate on front, which you could still partly see the P.

And none on the rear.

Yet I lost 3 points?

Have you looked up your driving record to confirm, or are you just going off what the officer said? Go to the RMS website and look it up. If you lost 3 points for 1 P plate offence (as reflected on your driving record, not what some copper told you on the street) then I'll eat my hat.

[Feathers]

Originally Posted by Adrenaline

Have you looked up your driving record to confirm, or are you just going off what the officer said? Go to the RMS website and look it up. If you lost 3 points for 1 P plate offence (as reflected on your driving record, not what some copper told you on the street) then I'll eat my hat.

The latest offence won't show up until it's proven - i.e. He pays the fine.

[Dave R]

Originally Posted by Feathers

The latest offence won't show up until it's proven - i.e. He pays the fine.

Exactly, which is why he should wait if he's due for greens or just accept that a P plate display fine is 2 points regardless of what some copper told him.

[buddy92]

I get my greens in August will it effect that?

[buddy92]

And I have another question.

My car is due for rego on June 3, will it effect me getting it registered?

[Dave R]

Originally Posted by buddy92

I get my greens in August will it effect that?

You have a pretty good chance at escaping the suspension then. Don't pay the fine! The points aren't taken off your license until you pay it. So if you can stall them until you get your greens, then the points will be taken off your green Ps and you will be sweet.

So do nothing for now and wait until you get a reminder letter (about a month's time), then just before the due date on the reminder letter (a few days prior to the deadline) submit a request for review to the SDRO by posting them one of these forms:

http://www.sdro.nsw.gov.au/lib/docs/...sdr_pn_015.pdf

When the SDRO receives your request for review, they will freeze the infringement until they finish reviewing it which can take some time. Then eventually they will get back to you with the result of your request for review. It will probably come back negative and the infringement will still stand. However, they give you a further time period to pay the fine. Hopefully by the time this has all occurred, you have got your green Ps so when the fine IS paid, you will have 7 points and will not lose your license.

You will have no dramas registering your car. Just delay paying the fine for as long as possible using the method above and you have a good chance at escaping 3 months on the bus.

[buddy92]

Originally Posted by Adrenaline

You have a pretty good chance at escaping the suspension then. Don't pay the fine! The points aren't taken off your license until you pay it. So if you can stall them until you get your greens, then the points will be taken off your green Ps and you will be sweet.

So do nothing for now and wait until you get a reminder letter (about a month's time), then just before the due date on the reminder letter (a few days prior to the deadline) submit a request for review to the SDRO by posting them one of these forms:

http://www.sdro.nsw.gov.au/lib/docs/...sdr_pn_015.pdf

When the SDRO receives your request for review, they will freeze the infringement until they finish reviewing it which can take some time. Then eventually they will get back to you with the result of your request for review. It will probably come back negative and the infringement will still stand. However, they give you a further time period to pay the fine. Hopefully by the time this has all occurred, you have got your green Ps so when the fine IS paid, you will have 7 points and will not lose your license.

You will have no dramas registering your car. Just delay paying the fine for as long as possible using the method above and you have a good chance at escaping 3 months on the bus.

You're a legend, Will try that .

Probably heard it all before, But I'm not the average "P plater" people expect, no P plate is all I've ever been done for no hooning, speeding ect

[Torment47]

Originally Posted by buddy92

NSW sorry forgot to say.

That town you said you wen't to wouldn't happen to be Shalvey would it?

[buddy92]

Originally Posted by Torment47

That town you said you wen't to wouldn't happen to be Shalvey would it?

Nah mate, I'm ashamed to say it.

Wellington

[Torment47]

i think your somewhat safe, everytime i wen't to Shalvey ( through work) i **** you not i saw theifs everytime i wen't to the local shops...

[buddy92]

Originally Posted by Torment47

i think your somewhat safe, everytime i wen't to Shalvey ( through work) i **** you not i saw theifs everytime i wen't to the local shops...

Yep just like Wellington. it's a tiny town, yet is crime rate is insanely high, check it out.

[a-total-tool]

Originally Posted by buddy92

Then how the hell did I lose 3?

I had a cracked P plate that had fallen behind my number plate on front, which you could still partly see the P.

And none on the rear.

Yet I lost 3 points?

P plates must be clearly displayed on the front and rear of the vehicle. If it is behind the number plate, it is obscured. The wording has changed since I had my Ps. You are no longer allowed to display them from inside the car (at the time I had mine, we were allowed, as long as there was no tinting or anything else restricting the visibility of the plate). I was told off several times (luckily not fined) as they were not able to tell the colour of the 'P', due the the purplish tint I had at the time.

What is the current demerit points for not showing the P plates? This may have changed?
I have 2 offences currently on my record. Both of them are for speeding, 20-30km over the limit. One in 2009 and the other one in March 2010. Neither offence was during a double demerit period. I have a total of 7 points on my record. The points increased between the 2 offences.

[jcxr]

Originally Posted by lockieoc

What state are you in?

In anticipation.

[svo supporter]

Originally Posted by jcxr

In anticipation.

Apprears to be NSW. TORMENT 47 has sort of made a comment relating to the state and that user is from NSW.

[buddy92]

Yeah and I said I was from NSW when the person on the other page asked.

[Cashie]

Did you phone the RTA and get confirmation of your situation?

[SteveJH]

According to here its 2 points and a $206 fine for not displaying P plates.

[chrisfpv]

You're not having a very good run are you? Losing your license and being scammed by Nigerians, ouch!

[Franco Cozzo]

Maybe they should go back to allowing P platers to display them inside their cars like us Victorians, mine are on the left side of the car, at the top of the front and rear windscreens.

[BradZ]

Im failing to see the issue here.

You have 4 points, you lost 5. That equals -1!

That means, no license. Problem solved, thank me later..

[charles_wif_xf]

Oh how I am not missing Australia when I read stuff like this.

The mere concept of having to ask for permission to travel is mind boggling. So much for our 'rights'...

[buddy92]

I just got a letter today saying I will loss my license for 3 months from August 16th.

It says this, "When the suspension ends, you can undergo the required test or graduate to the next license stage as long as you have held the license for the required periods exclusive of any period of suspension. You can renew your license if you need more time in order to satisfy the minimum tenure requirements"

Does that mean since I get my greens on september 1st I won't now since the time in my suspension doesn't count? I get that right?

[falconnut]

hi op i am in nsw too and i lost so many reds and greens i just check everytime i get out and get free ones from the rta.

next time please check.

[buddy92]

I did check and I knew I didn't have one but nothing was open Anzac day to get any. And the police station isn't a big one so they were shut.

[NC1183]

Originally Posted by BradZ

Im failing to see the issue here.

You have 4 points, you lost 5. That equals -1!

That means, no license. Problem solved, thank me later..

NO, you start on 0 points and accumulate the points, therefore he has 5, when as a red P-Plate driver he can only accumulate 4.

Like wise as an unrestricted licence holder, you can only accumulate to 13 points, 14 if you have a National Professional drivers licence (National Heavy Vehicle licence)

Originally Posted by buddy92

I just got a letter today saying I will loss my license for 3 months from August 16th.

It says this, "When the suspension ends, you can undergo the required test or graduate to the next license stage as long as you have held the license for the required periods exclusive of any period of suspension. You can renew your license if you need more time in order to satisfy the minimum tenure requirements"

Does that mean since I get my greens on september 1st I won't now since the time in my suspension doesn't count? I get that right?

Yep, thats correct, you will have to wait however long you missed while on your suspension, which in you case means about 15 days. Therefore 15 days after your suspension finishes you can go for your greens

[buddy92]

So if I lodge an appeal they will still be stopped on the 16th? Or lodge a appeal then go for my greens then I will lose them?