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View Poll Results: Gay/Lesbian marriage? | |||
Yes, I have no problem with it. |
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92 | 41.63% |
No way, I don't agree with it at all. |
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64 | 28.96% |
Couldn't give a toss about it either way. |
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35 | 15.84% |
Meh, each one to their own. |
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30 | 13.57% |
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Sorry, this was probably my fault with my response to Pis-ton's remark - let's steer the thread back to the poll lest it gets closed.
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Of course most religions hate it because it stops a religious couple from reproducing and those producing the next generation of loyal religious sheeple Now I couldn't give a **** if they get married or not, it just doesn't sit in with my line of thinking I know lots of homosexual couples, my 'beliefs' don't interfere with how I interact with them, I am sure they would hate my beliefs, but they are MY beliefs
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Ironic that the church is against it but has covered up abuse by priests of boys
So its not ok for two consenting adults of the same sex to be together but ok for a priest to molest a child The church is fhe prob
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I voted primarily as a #4... and a #3 which seems to be an identical option.
Couldn't give a toss about it either way = Meh, each one to their own. I've never really been concerned with what other people do within their relationships; it's never impinged on my lifestyle in any way whatsoever. My only suggestion to the gay couples would be maybe to give up using the word "marriage", and simply call it a civil union. It seems the marriage word is what causes a lot of angst for the ultra-conservative, hetero busybodies.
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But, with the quoted part above, does that not mean that honestly you couldn't care if they do get married? So, if it means the world to them, and it doesn't have any effect (or affect, I never get the right use) on you, why not let them do it?
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I really dont care either way, I dont know why all the fuss is made but maybe thats because it doesnt directly effect me, If it makes people happy, no one gets hurt and the world moves on then so what. I must state I have a complete opposite opinion to adoptions/IVF for homosexual relationships (which I often find myself conflicting even my own opinion) but that's a whooooooooooooole different topic. NFI why we would stop anyone getting married, the defacto relationship happens pretty quick legally so whats the difference, maybe then the nation can start talking about things to fix the bloody economy.
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The Topic is Gay/Lesbian marriage.
Not religion, child abuse or what you think of other members and their opinions.
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i say yes, but currently the LGBTI are lucky enough to not have to go through the pain of organising a wedding. but if they want that....
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Against.
Just by calling something marriage, doesn't mean its marriage. Traditionally for thousands of years in all walks of life, marriage has been a covenant, between husband and wife, which by its own course, propagates procreation and education of kids, unity and also wellbeing of the spouses. Promotion of gay marriage does the exact opposite. It denies the evident biological, physiological, and psychological differences between men and women. It flies in the face of the primary purpose of marriage: the perpetuation of the human race and the raising of children. Two entirely different things cannot be considered the same thing.
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Except that you don't need to be married to procreate and educate children.
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I’m surrounded by Clergy both Catholic and Anglican with my father in law having just given up his Sydney Parish during mid last year due to mobility problems and I can say you are very wrong. Even though I’m not a religious or church going person myself, we as a family spend a lot of time socialising in the world of Clergy and I count a number of them as my friends and in fact I’m driving 2 Anglican and 1 Catholic Priest to a rally this evening at Gosford to protest against returning children in detention to Nauru. What I can say is the majority both Anglican and Catholic support Gay Equality and would be more than willing to marry them in their Parish Churches as these are people who preach compassion and love and just because the heads of some of these religious institutes may preach against it, it doesn’t mean the rank and file agree with them. Like Politicians many are forced into toeing the company line but when you get to know a few and you’ll find they are a cross section of society like the rest of us. For instance if you knew anything about the Anglican Church you would also know almost no Clergy in Australia outside of Sydney supports the Sydney Diocese in it repressionist teachings. There is actually wide spread support within the Anglican Church for marriage equality and in recent times even the Pope has been working towards softening the Catholic Church’s stance against Gays. . Last edited by Express; 08-02-2016 at 02:01 PM. Reason: To correct the spelling of compassion |
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I'm in the live and let live category.
No strong feeling either way so 3 and 4. Dunno why people get so freaked out about this. |
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Addressing some other points in this thread, gay people may not want to marry (just as some straight people dont), what they want is the choice! Calling it a union, is still discriminating (you can marry, but it wont be the same as our marriage). And banging on about tradition or 'the sanctity of marriage' loses all momentum when people get married for a few hours, then get it annulled. Or anyone who has ever gotten a divorce. 'Traditional' marriage is til death do you part. None of this 'i found someone better' crap. Luckily for the planet, with each passing day, another bigot dies off, and so does their way of backwards thinking. (I bet these same people think that blacks are slaves, and women shouldn't be out of the kitchen...). Its not 1900 anymore ;) |
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Those members who believe marriage as an institution has been around for thousands of years need to read more and maybe get a little background in Theology while they’re at it.
Marriage came about as a legal means for a man to force a woman to obey (in other words to have sex without repercussions). Marriage and I’m not talking about historical male and female unions, I’m talking about a legally binding Marriage was invented by men to oppress women, marriage meant that women were the property of men, it had nothing to do with love nor did it have anything to do with binding a family unit. Marriage as we know it today is a very modern interpretation and from what I can see in the free world, it is a bond that is continuing to evolve. Forced marriages still exist in some cultures that hold onto ancient concepts. If marriage is so sacred then why is divorce so rife?
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Exactly where ELSE should they be???
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Not in the ******* shed getting in the way for starters
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I was a groomsman in our friends gay wedding,i have no issues with it at all.
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Being gay is not a new phenomenon it has been a part of human existence for as long as humans have existed and is a part of the natural world as there are many studies that show it exists throughout the animal kingdom.
If it wasn’t a part of nature it couldn't exist.
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What does that even mean? Whatever we are able to accomplish with out bits, is nature. If nature really didn't want it to happen, our weeners wouldn't fit in our poopers... A simplified way of looking at it for sure, but sometimes it is that simple. Quote:
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That is true but I think if you genuinely have the best interests of your children at heart, you will create and maintain a normal heterosexual environment for them. Yes, it is bloody hard work, but when both of you made the same child, that child will be far better off. Homos can not offer that same loyalty, at least one of them can't...
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What is the sanctity of marriage? Where did it come from? is it open to interpretation? or is strict in black and white?
Does it include not lying to your wife about the cost of car parts? The whole debate is hilarious because for so many people who believe in this 'sanctity' view it as black and white. Nothing in life is black and white, there is so much grey area, and im sure you come across grey areas in your own life all the time; willing to admit it or not.
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And that is the reason why they say it can’t be cured.
The difference is we are discussing homosexuality between consenting adults which is legal. With paedophilia there is a non-consenting victim.
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