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The I6 makes Euro IV, and has been rumored to have achieved the European Specification of Euro V. I don't think the I6 has any problems there. Look at Falc'man's profile for more information...
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That kind of reporting really burns my butt. Here's why. Of course I can only reference US emissions but I would imagine Aussie emissions are similar enough for the comparison to be relavent. Right now, cars in the US are 90% cleaner than a car built in 1970. To clean up these emissions by 50%, 70%, and 90% is NOT a very big jump. Particulates are such a very tiny portion of auto exhaust it is negligible. They should be looking to factories and diesel engines for particulate concerns. Here in the US cars only contribute 10% of the total of Global Warming emissions, yet are the subject of the most blame. If you cut emission of a specific gas by 90% from 1970 to now, to cut it again by 50% amounts to a VERY little impact in actual good for health concerns. This means only a 5% gain (50% of the 10% that is left from the original 90% improvement). This is like saying "We used to have a 100 meter race back in 1970, but we changed it to a 10 meter sprint in 1998. Now we are going to make it 50% shorter, a 5 meter sprint." Not a very big difference compared to the 1998 change, eh? It's only 5 more meters. Give me a break. Steve
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Lovely thing, Maths. Can be used to show or say what you like. Percentages are the most abused, as they almost never include a base figure. Politicians love them.
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What a stupid article, they dribble on about the plant not being able to meet E5 where in fact it has nothing to do with the plant itself, its what the plant produces! Completely different cost centre.
And correct me if I'm wrong the I6 is E4 compliant already. Dumbarses.
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Im really getting sick of the media trying to bring down Ford at any cost.
B.S journalism should be put a stop to - its crap like this that does more harm than good. Why the Media were never held accountable for the demise of Mitsubishi Australia is a joke. |
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I think they said that in the article. It's E5 that they are punting will cause a problem. |
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(sigh) Slow news day?
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Them punting or that the I6 already meets E5, no doubt both? How do we not know that it could be Ford manouvering for more R&D taxpayer money and using the press as it's vehicle? |
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Hey I'm not being critical, it's good business practice. If they are infact clever enough to lead the journos; hats off to them.
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hmmm interesting, there`s no mention of the masses of older cars on the road spewing pollution, that many can`t afford to upgrade, to me a better way to reduce pollution 5 fold would be more incentives for poorer people to afford new or newish cars, did some one one this forum recently mention that the ships around the world spew out far more pollution than all the cars on the planet? i may have seen it in a doco, another bit of useless trivia
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Ford did receive Gov't money in the US for the purpose of emissions R&D that was offered to ALL automakers in the US, including the Foreign transplants. Steve
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http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mell...2576A7007DF6F7
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Can anyone actually say what E5 compliance will involve and how much of a jump it is over E4??
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Tier Date CO THC NMHC NOx HC+NOx PM P*** Euro 4 January 2005 1.0 0.10 - 0.08 - - - Euro 5 September 2009 1.000 0.100 0.068 0.060 - 0.005** I don't see what the big deal is. Or are Ford looking for an excuse the can the I6 again?
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WHY ARE THEY PUSHING SO HARD TO MEET THE EUROPEAN UNIONS ACTIONS?
Who the hell runs this European Union anyway??? |
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But I'd say Ford might be trying to get a bit more funding or for E4 to stay on course so they can stretch the engine further. I know that they have no issue with E5.
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Here we go the first Falcon is gone article.
http://theage.drive.com.au/motor-new...0111-m1rp.html Quote:
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AWD wouldn't be so bad as FWD, would it? Or would it be better?
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Good to see they do their research. "If it has, then Ford will need a replacement for both versions of its 'Barra' V6 - in 195kW normally aspirated form and 270kW turbocharged form (310kW in FPV models)."
For some stupid reason people still call the I6 a V6. |
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A query, if I may:
You say the cold startup cycle of the I6 is its biggest downfall, in an emissions sense. Would the addition of an electric water pump, computer controlled to provide zero circulation on startup for the first, say, 50 seconds, help with this? So that the coolant heats up quicker and the motor isn't stuck in the warm up loop mode for as long...?
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