Covid 19 -

[Mr_G6ET]

Originally Posted by Tickford.

It's almost like Dan Andrews had seen all of your anti-Dan Andrews/VIC/Melbourne posts on here, knew that you were on your way to Melbourne, waited until you had boarded the flight, and then...... LOCKDOWN!!

Jokes aside, imagine how many personal plans have changed, disruptive to say the least. I would have thought lockdowns should have been immediate if you want to stop unknown spreading.
Everyone flees the areas when lockdown is declared in eastern states making it a bit of a joke.

My thought is be prepared for this stuff going forward, as discussed in other posts, this is a highly probable situation.
Long life milk, freeze or bake your bread, auto delivery from Amazon, bidet for the toilet paper spastics.
Be prepared for it for now and (maybe) some years to come.
Its called preppers and for the snoozers

[Mont5.0]

Originally Posted by Tickford.

It's almost like Dan Andrews had seen all of your anti-Dan Andrews/VIC/Melbourne posts on here, knew that you were on your way to Melbourne, waited until you had boarded the flight, and then...... LOCKDOWN!!

I wonder if the shoe was on the other foot, what Gladys would have done?

Oh wait, she didnt close the borders.

give it up tickford, once again you:

[Tickford.]

Have a goosey gander at this... Australia's Minister for Health, Greg Hunt Tweeted this morning that Australia has secured 10 million doses of the Pfizer vaccine... but it seems he maybe indicating it's for Liberal states only?? What's the go with attaching a Liberal logo for a vaccine announcement meant for all Australians??

https://twitter.com/GregHuntMP/statu...77406189051904


This on top of the news that vaccines will be distributed to the residents of the Liberal state of NSW first?? What an absolute joke!

[FairmontGS]

Originally Posted by Tickford.

Have a goosey gander at this... Australia's Minister for Health, Greg Hunt Tweeted this morning that Australia has secured 10 million doses of the Pfizer vaccine... but it seems he maybe indicating it's for Liberal states only?? What's the go with attaching a Liberal logo for a vaccine announcement meant for all Australians??

https://twitter.com/GregHuntMP/statu...77406189051904


This on top of the news that vaccines will be distributed to the residents of the Liberal state of NSW first?? What an absolute joke!

Not seeing the problem. Have to look after the Australian capital first, serving class states thereafter

#GoldStandardState

[burnz]

Originally Posted by FairmontGS

Not seeing the problem. Have to look after the Australian capital first, serving class states thereafter

#GoldStandardState

in chess the pawns go first!!

[T3rminator]

Originally Posted by Tickford.

Have a goosey gander at this... Australia's Minister for Health, Greg Hunt Tweeted this morning that Australia has secured 10 million doses of the Pfizer vaccine... but it seems he maybe indicating it's for Liberal states only?? What's the go with attaching a Liberal logo for a vaccine announcement meant for all Australians??

https://twitter.com/GregHuntMP/statu...77406189051904


This on top of the news that vaccines will be distributed to the residents of the Liberal state of NSW first?? What an absolute joke!

Dunno whats worse, the fact they used tax payers money to fund a political party campaign, or the fact he tried to defend it when challenged on ABC

https://twitter.com/i/status/1359257406618824704

[russellw]

Data valid as at 00:00 GMT February 9th, 2021.

Note: As not all Australian States report at the same time, the data below is based on the previous full day reporting.

11 new cases for Australia and no deaths so the CMR is 3.148%.

2 new cases and no deaths for NZ so CMR is 1.076% and active cases 59.

The UK had 13,013 cases yesterday and 1,001 deaths.

Just over 96k new cases in the USA yesterday and 3261 deaths sees CMR up to 1.726%. That's the third consecutive day under 100k cases. Note that the USA is actually minus one day due to time differences.

Other notable points:
Global deaths pass 2.35M, the last 50k in 5 days;
Russia passes 4M cases;

No countries

... recorded new daily highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day.

[FairmontGS]

It will be six years before the world is vaccinated against COVID-19: experts

It will take six years to vaccinate enough of the world’s population to reduce the threat of COVID-19, but public health experts say vaccines are no silver bullet and hygiene measures and masks will be part of life for years to come.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/fede...10-p5718i.html

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by Mr_G6ET

Scientists that came to a conclusion are multi national participants. Each had output opportunity without CPP control
Why would they have output/publicised views if they didn't have knowledge
Read this article; pretending to know better than the scientists on the ground is 'hot air' and 'keyboard jockeys'

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-55996728

Making China guilty without science is not actually looking for the true origin. For those that just say cover up, read the start of this line item again.

The WHO has been in China's pocket for years?

And would you trust the same WHO that denied covid was even capable of being spread human to human, as they did in the early months of the pandemic? That little F up resulted in it being spread across the world. All because they were either incompetent, or trying to protect China's reputation.

They are a joke of an organization. If the Chinese didn't want it covered up, then why did they stop the WHO talking to the wuhan lab scientists? And only letting them into China to investigate over a year later?

Scientists can easily be bought off you know. Or ones sympathetic to the CCP's cause brought in. We all know the CCP will do whatever is necessary to protect it's reputation.

[FTE217]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

The WHO has been in China's pocket for years?

And would you trust the same WHO that denied covid was even capable of being spread human to human, as they did in the early months of the pandemic? That little F up resulted in it being spread across the world. All because they were either incompetent, or trying to protect China's reputation.

They are a joke of an organization. If the Chinese didn't want it covered up, then why did they stop the WHO talking to the wuhan lab scientists? And only letting them into China to investigate over a year later?

Scientists can easily be bought off you know. Or ones sympathetic to the CCP's cause brought in. We all know the CCP will do whatever is necessary to protect it's reputation.

but did you read the headline, yer you did, the WHO are the light at the end of the tunnel or bat cave, like the IOC another beacon of society
Maybe its Bonds Blofield or Raoul Silva (Skyfall) he'd like people to believe

[Bossxr8]

https://twitter.com/who/status/12170...761152?lang=en

This tweet from the WHO pretty much tells you all you need to know about them, and their CCP masters. I wonder how many lives could have been saved if they didn't do China's bidding, and locked down Wuhan at the start?

[oldel]

Everyone sucked up to China for too long. Are the chinese the master of the world now?
Australia sucked up for coal, food and ore exports. Tech businesses sucked up for cheap production, the WHO sucked up because if they didn't they wouldn't be allowed into the country (their belief was play the game and maybe a little good could be done, otherwise it could be worse with them not even allowed in the country). Not defending them, it's just what I've heard from them.

China play hard and got everyone singing their tune because they wanted what we had, and we wanted what they've got; so without trade wars everything ran a little smoother. What is the world going to do about China now is the question.

[T3rminator]

Trump commended Xi on the response right at the beginning, remember that? Was he in China's pocket? What a logic. Slagging off the WHO was a ridiculous tactic to deflect attention away from Trump's mismanagement. The WHO can only respond based on the information provided to them. And from accounts, it sounds like they were provided with very selective bits of info which made their life difficult in the beginning.

The US contribution to WHO was 3 times more than China at the time, yet the WHO was in China's pocket. Insane. Whats the next theory? Everyone in WHO has a secret account with billions of yuan? Yes, that's been floating around too. The WHO is a massive organisation with reps from all over the world, any deliberate cover up of this scale would be leaked quite quickly.

Some inconvenient facts:
21st Jan 2019, the WHO advised that there was evidence of human to human transmission.
22nd and 23rd Jan - IHR Emergency Committee was convened and had reps from most of the developed world, including Australia. The committee decided not to declare the situation a public health emergency of international concern (PHEIC). The reason being....."Economy".

The "world" knew, but the world took a calculated risk to keep things open to save the economy. It didn't work. Learn from it for the next one. It took 10 years to get to the bottom of the SARS origin, but we start slagging off the WHO because they didn't find all the answers in a month.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by T3rminator

Trump commended Xi on the response right at the beginning, remember that? Was he in China's pocket? What a logic. Slagging off the WHO was a ridiculous tactic to deflect attention away from Trump's mismanagement. The WHO can only respond based on the information provided to them. And from accounts, it sounds like they were provided with very selective bits of info which made their life difficult in the beginning.

The US contribution to WHO was 3 times more than China at the time, yet the WHO was in China's pocket. Insane. Whats the next theory? Everyone in WHO has a secret account with billions of yuan? Yes, that's been floating around too. The WHO is a massive organisation with reps from all over the world, any deliberate cover up of this scale would be leaked quite quickly.

Some inconvenient facts:
21st Jan 2019, the WHO advised that there was evidence of human to human transmission.
22nd and 23rd Jan - IHR Emergency Committee was convened and had reps from most of the developed world, including Australia. The committee decided not to declare the situation a public health emergency of international concern (PHEIC). The reason being....."Economy".

The "world" knew, but the world took a calculated risk to keep things open to save the economy. It didn't work. Learn from it for the next one. It took 10 years to get to the bottom of the SARS origin, but we start slagging off the WHO because they didn't find all the answers in a month.

https://theprint.in/opinion/if-you-d...s-well/405637/

The WHO has been corrupt for a long time. It's nothing new.

[FTE217]

the profit has spoken....
Lets move on no point going back and forth.

and in other breaking local news......
https://www.3aw.com.au/covid-19-conc...df_LOiqBDC3rS8
I suppose defense will come out regards this......

[Citroënbender]

How about Submarine Man’s exemption to quarantine at a house? Double standard or what?

I have a dental work quote of nearly $40K here, it would be 1/3 that in Eastern Europe, even with the travel. While I’d like to go, the hotel quarantine on return would send me crazy - can’t live without fresh air on my face. I’d be happy to get dumped at some rural or fringe property for a fortnight or more of solo renovation, would be a win-win. But since I don’t build submarines it’s unlikely to be offered.

[pottery beige]

Originally Posted by Citroënbender

How about Submarine Man’s exemption to quarantine at a house? Double standard or what?

I have a dental work quote of nearly $40K here, it would be 1/3 that in Eastern Europe, even with the travel. While I’d like to go, the hotel quarantine on return would send me crazy - can’t live without fresh air on my face. I’d be happy to get dumped at some rural or fringe property for a fortnight or more of solo renovation, would be a win-win. But since I don’t build submarines it’s unlikely to be offered.

jeebus

how the hell do you rack up $40k dental ??

[Citroënbender]

Originally Posted by pottery beige

jeebus

how the hell do you rack up $40k dental ??

Quoted Nov 2018. Still procrastinating, or was until COVID.

[pottery beige]

Originally Posted by Citroënbender

Quoted Nov 2018. Still procrastinating, or was until COVID.

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$25k+ for bunnos floor board teeth.. ??!1!!1111!

can you pump some through private health ???

[Charliewool]

Originally Posted by Citroënbender

Quoted Nov 2018. Still procrastinating, or was until COVID.

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Pity a little hard to get here presently due to Aus closed borders... But your Au40k would be maybe 18 here! (And I just happen to know of some excellent Aussie owned accommodation too... http://www.booking.com/Share-1EUvxF
https://ticotimes.net/2020/04/22/cos...-in-costa-rica

[T3rminator]

Originally Posted by FTE217

the profit has spoken....
Lets move on no point going back and forth.

and in other breaking local news......
https://www.3aw.com.au/covid-19-conc...df_LOiqBDC3rS8
I suppose defense will come out regards this......

Interesting, considering that residents aren't even allowed to order Uber eats, this would be a major breach of protocol, if true. Defence won't make a difference, they are already manning the lobby, so this bloke got passed them too it seems.

[oldel]

Yeah, that's the problem with STEM type people and orgs, I guess you need one of their own to head it for any type of legitimacy, but they couldn't organise a **** up in a brewery. You need better communicators, organisers and wily people to deal with the leaders of nations. Otherwise you don't get leadership, you just get internal spats, jealousy etc.

[FairmontGS]

And then there were 11...

Victoria records another new case linked to Holiday Inn cluster

A staff member at the Holiday Inn in Tullamarine is the latest infection linked to the growing hotel cluster which now stands at 11.

Victoria’s Deputy Secretary of Community Engagement and Testing Commander, Jeroen Weimar, said the employee, believed to be an assistant manager, was tested on Wednesday and returned a positive result on Thursday.

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/he...77d0d055b11a02

[Citroënbender]

Interesting to note, that Victoria is tipped to be leading the nation in mortgage stress as a result of its lockdown. Story on ABC news (website) earlier today.

[lumen8]

[MITCHAY]

So we have had a WHO investigation in China. Despite it being a year too late and reports of it being heavily stage managed, do we have any better insight into what happened? Or did it all go the way we thought it would

As I have said previously, the initial response and lack of transparency from China may have allowed the virus to escape, individual countries have the responsibility to manage it within their borders and this is where many leaders have failed including Trump. You can **** and moan how it got there but it's on them to manage it once it is there.

While I think it is unwise to withdraw from the WHO in the middle of the pandemic, in defence of Trump it is a ****en joke how much the US contributes to WHO in comparison to China who have the second largest economy and still enjoy developing nation status. They take the **** every day.

[oldel]

All true. That being said if everyone in China was sick or dead it could have delayed the new iphone or galaxy. Trump really liked tweeting you know. Also seems the worlds economy depended in shipping food and ore to China and them shipping junk back to fill our shops.

End of the day the western world has got to tell China if you want to be a world player then play by the world rules. Of course we can't threaten them, we are too dependent on them for trade.

Before trade wars they didn't know what would happen so it tempered them a bit. Now they know they can thrive after trumps trade war and the west will still trade with them willingly. They have been strengthened, they have all the power now and they know it. Think of how you feel when you think of that. That's how the WHO felt went operating in China back then and now.

[FTE217]

So can anyone confirm this



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[Citroënbender]

I can confirm it’s a photograph. :p About 20% of NSW COVID fatalities happened at the Newmarch House fiasco.

It’s worth noting that in Sydney at least, the popular mood has seemingly evolved; nine months ago the vibe was “trust nobody, even your neighbour could be carrying this”. Now people seem more focused on where actual risks might be.

[T3rminator]

One wakes up this morning and its...

‘PANDEMONIUM’: Crisis talks as Victoria braces for snap virus lockdown

‘Very live outbreak’: Cluster spikes

Holiday Inn COVID-19 cluster swells to 13 after another two contacts test positive



Snap lock down should have occurred right from the beginning. But 13 over the course of several days is hardly to get your jollies over. This might make people think there was some sort of rort they were trying to keep off the headlines.

On that note, welcome to Victoria FairmontGS

Personally, I'll start getting twitchy if they start identifying unlinked cases, or cases outside of the "3rd circle".