Fuel Saver

MoreHPformyXR6 · 16-07-2006, 09:35 PM

Everyone probally has seen fuel savers on ebay make all sorts of amazeing claims, but has anyone fitted them to a big 6cyl or V8 (& are willing to admit it) & can speak from experience.

The one I was reading about was "Fuel saver Plus" I know Repco have a product called Vapourite & I have not heard people with it saying its been a great investment.

What is Fuel Saver Plus:

Fuel Saver Plus is the most powerful fuel saver every made. It is Powered by Neodymium rare earth magnet with a force of 25,000 Gauss. It is the strongest and most powerful fuel saver you can ever find. Recommended for all engines.

How does it work :

Placing the Fuel Saver Plus , on the Supply fuel line, causes the hydrocarbon molecular clusters to seperate and expand. More Oxygen will now combine, with more of these hydrocarbon molecules, which are no longer in clusters, for better, more efficient combustion in the firing chamber. Since Fuel is now burning more Efficiently, the result is reduced emissions, less fuel needed to reach and maintain speed levels.
Carbon and Varnish build-up is lowered, thus reducing maintenance and extending engine life.
A "cleaner and hotter" fuel burn also increases Horsepower and overall engine Performance.

The Fuel Saver Plus accelerates combustion and burns more of the fuel that is normally exhausted as un-burned pollution.

FEATURES :

Increase mileage (Fuel saving of up to 27 %)
Works on petrol or diesel engines
Extends engine life by cleaning existing Carbon/Varnish Deposits
Boosts Performance / Horsepower
Reduces harmful Exhaust Emissions
Use for engines up to 16 cylinders. Fuel line Smoother running engine by promoting a more complete combustion
Install in less than 5 minutes with no Tools needed !!!
Maintenance Free and One time purchase
Can easily be transferred to another vehicle.
Benefits :

Pays for itself within a couple of months from your fuel's bill
Improves mileage up to 27 %
Enhances energy performances!
Reduces carbon monoxide emission
Smoother and quieter enqine!
Cleans engine, carburetor and spark plugs!
Environmental friendly!
Maintenance free!
Easy to install!
Does not effect vehicle warranty!
Engine sound will be changed from Sino cycle waves to square waves.
Engine temperature will be decreased.
At Gas burner , it will change the flame from orange colour to blue colour.
At waterline, it will change hard partices of water to soft particles.

Deanodriver · 16-07-2006, 09:56 PM

If it really did affect economy, wouldn't the manufacturers put them on as standard?

**Silver Ghia** · 16-07-2006, 09:59 PM

Unless people start raving about it, not the manufacturer or distributor, i wouldnt waste my time on these things.

MoreHPformyXR6 · 16-07-2006, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Silver Ghia

Unless people start raving about it, not the manufacturer or distributor, i wouldnt waste my time on these things.

Couldnt agree more

blakeyboy · 17-07-2006, 04:00 PM

these things nearly always are based on dodgy science...
have a look at this link toDANSDATA for prime examples of such science...
dan is a master of google. and he has covered such fuel saving shams before.

Laminge · 17-07-2006, 04:02 PM

http://www.fordforums.com.au/search....archid=1083094

WillsEDfalcon · 05-09-2007, 12:01 AM

theres a new one on the net called powermag or something like that... for around $50 you they reken a savings of 30%... I could do alot with $50 with premium unleaded in the tank.
If there only just magnets why not get some and DIY fuel saver...
Magnets are magnets there all the same.

Cheers, Will

King Nothing · 05-09-2007, 12:36 AM

Placing the Fuel Saver Plus , on the Supply fuel line, causes the hydrocarbon molecular clusters to seperate and expand.

How exactly does a magnetic field interact with a non-metallic liquid and cause "clusters" to separate and expand? Separte, I *may* believe as hydrogen can be affected by magnetic fields but im 99.99% sure it wont affect a hydrocarbon. But it won't cause a molecule to expand

More Oxygen will now combine, with more of these hydrocarbon molecules, which are no longer in clusters, for better, more efficient combustion in the firing chamber.

If you believe the first paragraph I could see why you would believe this one, causing you to validate the first paragraph in your own mind. But the combustion of the fuel depends upon the surface area of the droplets, not the area in between "clusters". Just thinking about it, assuming you have the same size fuel droplets (as your injectors are the same) and *if* it causes the "clusters" to "separate and expand" then you will have less fuel molecules per droplet, so less fuel per cycle, so less combustion so less power!

Since Fuel is now burning more Efficiently, the result is reduced emissions, less fuel needed to reach and maintain speed levels.

This would be true if the stuff actually worked

Carbon and Varnish build-up is lowered, thus reducing maintenance and extending engine life.

How? You arent adding anything extra to act as a cleaning agent, just "re-arranging the clusters"

A "cleaner and hotter" fuel burn also increases Horsepower and overall engine Performance.

Ok but it still hasnt done anything to get to this point

FEATURES :

Increase mileage (Fuel saving of up to 27 %) Massive saving! Id love my BA to get 7.8L/100km!
Works on petrol or diesel engines - Yep, doesnt do anything for either
Extends engine life by cleaning existing Carbon/Varnish Deposits - Reducing the build-up, or cleaning it? Make up your mind!
Boosts Performance / Horsepower Pull the other one
Reduces harmful Exhaust Emissions See above
Use for engines up to 16 cylinders. Fuel line Smoother running engine by promoting a more complete combustion See above
Install in less than 5 minutes with no Tools needed !!! Morons buy them, so they need to make it simple enough for them to install!
Maintenance Free and One time purchase Cause it doesnt do anything!
Can easily be transferred to another vehicle. See above
Benefits :

Engine sound will be changed from Sino cycle waves to square waves. WTF? Has anyone heard a square wave? They are awful
Engine temperature will be decreased. By promoting a hotter burn?
At Gas burner , it will change the flame from orange colour to blue colour. So you are increasing the temperature of the flame but claiming a cooler engine?
At waterline, it will change hard partices of water to soft particles. LOL hard water is water with a lot of calcium, etc in it. Its hard to make soap lather in it. Besides id be concerned if there was enough water for there to be a water level inside the combustion chamber!

So yeah, they are a load of garbage

ltd · 05-09-2007, 01:26 AM

King Nothing is right. Additionally, where does the oxygen they claim that attaches to the hydrocarbon come from? If it came from the induction wouldn't the MAF sensor pick it up and negate it for running too lean?
Inside a fuel line there is no oxygen so I assume it comes out of the manufacturers rear end.
Secondly, vexatious calims like this can have disastrous results. Some idiot stuck a fuel saver in his Jeep which resulted in the engine catching fire. This made Today tonight and they made the rather spurious claim that it was the fault of chrysler. What they failed to disclose has them in the supreme court for failing to mention the modification that indeed caused the fire, as well as defamation of the chrysler brand.

Finally, before committing to modifications like these you can assure yourself that they are BS by the fact that car makers spend billions globally on a competitive edge on fuel consumption. If a $50 magnet shaved 30% off you can bet that the manufacturer would have installed it.

Sledgehammer · 05-09-2007, 08:25 AM

I think that most people dont know what their fuel consumption actually is and then believe that these save fuel after they purchase and then take some note of the fuel running with no real comparison beforehand.

MYVYSS · 05-09-2007, 09:00 AM

Send me 200 bucks and I will lower your fuel bill by about 80%, I will just come around and stick a brick UNDER the accelerator and you wont be able ot accelerate more than 20 % thus saving you 80%.

3vXT · 05-09-2007, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by MYVYSS

Send me 200 bucks and I will lower your fuel bill by about 80%, I will just come around and stick a brick UNDER the accelerator and you wont be able ot accelerate more than 20 % thus saving you 80%.

How much for just the parts, no labor?

Can you post to newcastle?

Ringo · 05-09-2007, 09:38 AM

A fool and their money are easily parted......for exmaple see above !

DBourne · 05-09-2007, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Sledgehammer

I think that most people dont know what their fuel consumption actually is and then believe that these save fuel after they purchase and then take some note of the fuel running with no real comparison beforehand.

plus then people drive very conservitally and then go wow! i got more K out of my tank!! surely its not cos i didnt flog my car this week, it has to be the magical magnets

Macca23 · 05-09-2007, 10:43 AM

Wonder if mythbusters have a show on this one before??
Get them on the case, they will do somthing, they will try and bust it haha!

On a serious note, in my old job (sales rep for aftermaket accessories for motro cars) I rember on 2 different occasion's blokes coming in to try and make me sell a fuel save additive.

His claims was similar to the above but was added to each tank and after approx 5,000ks you would see the differrence. increase of approx 20% in economy.

1 bloke seemed a dogy dude, but the 2nd was a reputable company that make alot accessories.

Never tried the product wasnt game enough.

EFIwindsor · 05-09-2007, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by MYVYSS

Send me 200 bucks and I will lower your fuel bill by about 80%, I will just come around and stick a brick UNDER the accelerator and you wont be able ot accelerate more than 20 % thus saving you 80%.

Who do I make the cheque out to

BeStRaFe · 05-09-2007, 11:19 AM

i have dried the "dynotab" fuel additive.
its an octane booster and a cleaning solution.

it works quite well, only a few % of difference, but the power pickup is much better.. but thats most likely due to the injectors being clean... mahaha

3vXT · 05-09-2007, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Ringo

A fool and their money are easily parted......for exmaple see above !

I was joking.

xr8 007 · 05-09-2007, 02:06 PM

i dont believe in any of those fuel saver things!!!

StealthAu · 05-09-2007, 02:18 PM

I might make a fuel saver and sell it on the net, maybe a chunk of wood that you stick under the gas pedal to prevent you from reving the car past 2500rpm. If people by hyclones surely they'll buy this

Yellow_Festiva · 05-09-2007, 04:49 PM

There was an article on the news about this sotta stuff, and it got me thinking.

Just say you add every available fuel saver on the market, I fugured this would result in a saving of over 100% combined??

So.... your car will be making petrol, not using it lol.

AlbertM · 05-09-2007, 04:50 PM

Install 4 of them and you'll be draining the fuel from the tank.

asusdragon · 05-09-2007, 08:06 PM

yes mythbusters did something on this and they were all a load of crap. i think it was on last seasons which every one that was the other one that didnt try was that australian one that repco seel hiclone or whatever, still not sure on this one for $400 a mate had it on his ED didnt give him a fuel saving at all but he said he got a bit more power from it, but for the price i would rather spend it on something else

schnoods · 05-09-2007, 08:15 PM

If its too good to be true, it probably is.

bob^ · 05-09-2007, 10:03 PM

There's a lab I know of that has had many of these come through for evaluations and certifications. Guess how many have actually worked - not one.

WillsEDfalcon · 06-09-2007, 12:27 AM

I though about it ligit, but then i thought about how i could improove the fuel consupsion by
-new fuel filter
-regulator
- clean injectors
-correct tyre pressures
- bearings/brakes to see if anything was rubbing or unneeded friction that would cause the car to consume more fuel.

I agree with some of the posts that have said how dodgy these are! I like the bloke of wood idea. But i guess it comes down to a feather foot instead of a lead foot i guess.

Cheers, Will

GT-E · 10-09-2007, 04:46 PM

I have a friend who invented www.ifuel.com.au and it does work.
It has been proven by Bosch and is going to be available in many workshops.
It cleans the motor of the carbon deposits and this makes a significant difference to many aspects of the car.

Ringo · 13-09-2007, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ken2903

I was joking.

I knew that....just making a smart *** remark.

No offense intended.

colossus · 13-09-2007, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MoreHPformyXR6

It is Powered by Neodymium rare earth magnet with a force of 25,000 Gauss.

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Originally Posted by MoreHPformyXR6

Enhances energy performances!

Of course! Great Engrish.

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Originally Posted by MoreHPformyXR6

Does not effect vehicle warranty!

Yep Ford would have no problem with paying out an engine warranty after they found you had stuffed around with your fuel supply lines with "the strongest magnets in the universe"....not.

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Originally Posted by MoreHPformyXR6

At Gas burner , it will change the flame from orange colour to blue colour.
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Seriously WTF?

3vXT · 13-09-2007, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Ringo

I knew that....just making a smart *** remark.

No offense intended.

No problems mate