Toyota Tundra for Oz

ozrunner · 05-05-2023, 12:56 PM

Seems like the large ute segment is set to take off in Oz with the F150 in the pipeline and now the Toyota Tundra also getting closer to being a candidate.

Get your name down as one of the testing 300

This part is interesting given their Ford association.

"Toyota and its local engineering partner, the Walkinshaw Automotive Group – the former parent company of Holden Special Vehicles – have already been working on the right-hand-drive Tundra remanufacturing program for more than three years.

As pointed out Toyota's 230 plus Oz country wide dealership for servicing and parts will be a major plus.

https://www.drive.com.au/news/toyota...edium=Referral

Franco Cozzo · 05-05-2023, 01:31 PM

Was involved in one of the parts that goes into this conversion, the amount of testing required to get through Toyota's engineering team was nuts.

**Polyal** · 05-05-2023, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Was involved in one of the parts that goes into this conversion, the amount of testing required to get through Toyota's engineering team was nuts.

Was/is what it should be?

Look forward to the market dropping on those $150k utes.

Franco Cozzo · 05-05-2023, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Polyal

Was/is what it should be?

The OEM item didn't even meet Toyota's own specifications when we tested it

However, they required very stringent testing compared to developing the same product for RAM and Silverado.

**FTE217** · 05-05-2023, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

The OEM item didn't even meet Toyota's own specifications when we tested it

However, they required very stringent testing compared to developing the same product for RAM and Silverado.

What/which OEM item and vehicle ?

Franco Cozzo · 06-05-2023, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by FTE217

What/which OEM item and vehicle ?

Tundra - failed destructive testing to their own specs, pulled apart under tension.

For what it is thats for me to know and you to figure out, but I was involved in the discussions about some of the locally manufactured parts that go into that conversion.

Also made for the RAM and Silverado, so far none of the others have been as thorough as Toyota have, although HSV is very stringent with quality - Toyota is next level.

I'd sooner buy something that comes out of HSV's production line than any of the others in the industry like some prominent ones who've been around for 20+ years.

Swordie · 06-05-2023, 09:47 AM

HSV have done very well modifying their business post Holden.

Vekgib · 06-05-2023, 12:37 PM

Saw two Tundras in camo going through Crookwell a month or so back. Local Toyota dealer has a few "expressions of interest" for when details drop.

Franco Cozzo · 06-05-2023, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Swordie

HSV have done very well modifying their business post Holden.

Its hilarious how continuously everyone was saying 'No one wants American utes'.

They've always wanted American utes, just no one was willing to put money on it - except HSV.

Thats why 2001-2006 Brazillian RHD F250/F350 are worth more now with 500,000km on the clock then they were when they were new.

Franco Cozzo · 06-05-2023, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Swordie

HSV have done very well modifying their business post Holden.

Super passionate business as well, they're a bit uncoordinated for an OEM, but that was because they grew massively in a very short space of time. I don't think they anticipated demand for what their product, everything ramped up massively, nekminnit they're running 24 hour production as well.

Their warehouse crew are hilarious too, if they were more relaxed they'd fade out of existence

Its like they have their own timezone, there's GMT +10 then there's HSV warehouse crew time.

roKWiz · 06-05-2023, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Its hilarious how continuously everyone was saying 'No one wants American utes'.

They've always wanted American utes, just no one was willing to put money on it - except HSV.

Thats why 2001-2006 Brazillian RHD F250/F350 are worth more now with 500,000km on the clock then they were when they were new.

No one ever said that in the country.
Only city people don't get the need for proper toy haulers that can actually safely pull large fifth wheeler, caravans, horsefloats and boats.

Franco Cozzo · 06-05-2023, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by roKWiz

No one ever said that in the country.
Only city people don't get the need for proper toy haulers that can actually safely pull large fifth wheeler, caravans, horsefloats and boats.

Saw a new F250 yesterday pulling a 5th wheel horse float - had three horses in it.

Meanwhile everyone else is salty because of the price of fuel and feigning concern over how it won't fit in the car park at ~~Woolworths~~ Safeway. Because Woolworths Catalogue has nothing to do with this.

Thailand Specials and the 3500kg towing capacity

Yeah 3500kg in 2nd gear on redline at 40km/h on the next incline you see.

roKWiz · 06-05-2023, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Saw a new F250 yesterday pulling a 5th wheel horse float - had three horses in it.

Meanwhile everyone else is salty because of the price of fuel and feigning concern over how it won't fit in the car park at ~~Woolworths~~ Safeway.

And no doubt did it with ease while sounding great unlike certain 4 door tiny tubs try to do. 3500kg BS pulling cap.

Sprintey · 06-05-2023, 08:19 PM

Absolute no brainer when you consider how huge the country is outside of the cities. Why limit your space and payload?

XR Martin · 06-05-2023, 10:51 PM

You can blame Holden for the 3.5t towing crap.
Remember when the PX came out is was 3.2t, not long after Holden released the Colorado and advertised 3.5t.
Immediately after Ford re-engineered the PX and upped it to 3.5t
Hilux at the time was 2.5t.
Although now that I think of it, pretty sure it was the PK Ranger that first went to 3t.

**DFB FGXR6** · 06-05-2023, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by XR Martin

You can blame Holden for the 3.5t towing crap.
Remember when the PX came out is was 3.2t, not long after Holden released the Colorado and advertised 3.5t.
Immediately after Ford re-engineered the PX and upped it to 3.5t
Hilux at the time was 2.5t.
Although now that I think of it, pretty sure it was the PK Ranger that first went to 3t.

With the amount of flex the old PK Ranger had in its chassis, I would never consider getting anywhere near that 3t limit!

**FTE217** · 08-05-2023, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Tundra - failed destructive testing to their own specs, pulled apart under tension.

For what it is thats for me to know and you to figure out, but I was involved in the discussions about some of the locally manufactured parts that go into that conversion.

Also made for the RAM and Silverado, so far none of the others have been as thorough as Toyota have, although HSV is very stringent with quality - Toyota is next level.

I'd sooner buy something that comes out of HSV's production line than any of the others in the industry like some prominent ones who've been around for 20+ years.

The US laws and standards as we know quite differ to our OTT standards, maybe too much but it ticks the box's at the same time limits many propective Imports.
Not surprised of the outcome to me.
As we know US standards are leaner than ours and the EU.
Walky have built up a great rep from yonks ago and the kid has done well diversifying the business model as well might I add.
There are a couple of others who are just as good also.

I agree I'd sooner any work done here on any yanky vehicle for at least its done to a high standard compared to less.