2.5 T/D D40 Navara

EF Futura 07 · 07-12-2007, 09:02 PM

been driving the company car for the last few day's. new model navara T/D 6 speed manual (40,000 k's). what a gutless hunk of metal. the lag is absolute bullcrap, there is nothing under 2200, that's when the turbo decides to wake up.

the specs are as follow's

126kw@ 4000
403nm@ 2000

thats funny because if you nail the throttle @ 2000 there is that 200-300 rpm before you can here it spool up and something acually happens. also over 3500 it runs out of steam yet peak power is @ 4000 ???? i might add it will rev to 4500. dont try to take off from a hill if your not @ 2500 and slipping the clutch because it will stall (like it did today........ twice lol

: )

also the gear ratio's are way to tall from 3-6th, yet 1-2 is way to low

eg, come up to a corner at say 30k's, now if you choose 3rd to accelerate out its at about 1500revs (so no boost, change to 2nd and you lock the *** if you dont blip the throttle because its about 3500.)

what are your thoughts?

4vxc · 07-12-2007, 09:10 PM

Incredibly noisy also, sounds like a Cummings performs like a Niki

as the ad used to say "its a Nissan thats my car"

**Falcon Coupe** · 07-12-2007, 09:20 PM

What a load of garbage, mine just won the DYO class at Heathcote raceway.
It ripped easy burnouts and does 18.3 second quarter. (2 Tonne 4 cylinder)
Learn how to drive a Diesel.

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nugget378 · 07-12-2007, 09:20 PM

I have to disagree,I went in falcon coupes navara at the drag day,and I must say I was impressed at how quiet it was,and in performance it actually surprised me..

4vxc · 07-12-2007, 09:27 PM

well it must be vastly different to my neighbours new Navara.
The noise level is ridiculous, at its worst when it has a slight load eg. small hill
It is louder than a F250 7.3 diesel by far.

EF Futura 07 · 07-12-2007, 10:10 PM

well having an MR licence, i thought i did

PS, 18.3 thats around 10.5 sec to 100? also what speed was that? about 80?

irlewy86 · 07-12-2007, 10:19 PM

They are alright for a ute.

Ever drive the old 2.8 diesel Hilux?

GT 4eva · 07-12-2007, 10:29 PM

its not a performance car mate but for what they are i think there great well mine is anyway

debacle-racing · 07-12-2007, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EF Futura 07

been driving the company car for the last few day's. new model navara T/D 6 speed manual (40,000 k's). what a gutless hunk of metal. the lag is absolute bullcrap, there is nothing under 2200, that's when the turbo decides to wake up.

the specs are as follow's

126kw@ 4000
403nm@ 2000

thats funny because if you nail the throttle @ 2000 there is that 200-300 rpm before you can here it spool up and something acually happens. also over 3500 it runs out of steam yet peak power is @ 4000 ???? i might add it will rev to 4500. dont try to take off from a hill if your not @ 2500 and slipping the clutch because it will stall (like it did today........ twice lol

: )

also the gear ratio's are way to tall from 3-6th, yet 1-2 is way to low

eg, come up to a corner at say 30k's, now if you choose 3rd to accelerate out its at about 1500revs (so no boost, change to 2nd and you lock the *** if you dont blip the throttle because its about 3500.)

what are your thoughts?

Pffft!! are you joking mate, learn to drive it. what did you have before this? an auto commodore wagon or something?

heres mine, it tows a 3t trailer with no probs at all.

**TUF_302** · 07-12-2007, 10:47 PM

Sounds like yours is a dud, ive been in a 07 2.5ltr Turbo Pathfinder, which is a Navara but in wagon form, and its bloody awsome, quiet, very smooth and pulls very well, handles a caravan no worries!

EF Futura 07 · 07-12-2007, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TUF_302

Sounds like yours is a dud !

it might just be, seeming though there are people in here with them and rate them highly i might have a dud

**Falcon Coupe** · 07-12-2007, 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4vxc

well it must be vastly different to my neighbours new Navara.
The noise level is ridiculous, at its worst when it has a slight load eg. small hill
It is louder than a F250 7.3 diesel by far.

It depends what you call noisy, this is idle to full throttle:

http://www.fordforums.com.au/photos/...at=2016&page=1

debacle-racing · 07-12-2007, 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EF Futura 07

it might just be, seeming though there are people in here with them and rate them highly i might have a dud

you might just have to put a few snickers bars in the fuel tank, should give it a few more nuts!

**Charliewool** · 08-12-2007, 12:23 AM

My "sister" company in NZ has one of these. I had it for 3 days, then drove it from Timaru to Christchurch in Sept this year, and fairdinkum, have only just stopped raving about it!
Absolutely pulled like a train, comfortable, SO easy to drive, and totally reversed my anti jap diesel thinking for good!

Fordy · 08-12-2007, 12:56 AM

My old mans is killa, all my mates have Tritons and Hiluxs and i reckon the Navara acks on all of them.......Remember its a work ute not an xr6t.....

schnoods · 08-12-2007, 01:53 AM

The New Triton's are a fair bit more gutsy compared to the Navara.

Though, I haven't towed anything with either so it would be interesting.

4vxc · 08-12-2007, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Falcon Coupe

It depends what you call noisy, this is idle to full throttle:

http://www.fordforums.com.au/photos/...at=2016&page=1

fair enough,totally different sound to his. Sounds like its been bored .030 using std pistons.

kremmen · 08-12-2007, 10:33 AM

I had an ST-r 2004 model for work. It was a great car.

Mate has the new one ST-X i think. I wasn't as impressed with its offroad capabilities at all, and the price i thought was a bit rich.

Auslandau · 08-12-2007, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Falcon Coupe

What a load of garbage, mine just won the DYO class at Heathcote raceway.
It ripped easy burnouts and does 18.3 second quarter. (2 Tonne 4 cylinder)
Learn how to drive a Diesel.

Yeah well seeing that I was in the blue (LOSER) Xr6 and got done by a bloody 4x4 in the DYO .... got pipped at the post first run!

For there intended purpose, they can't be beat! The new generation turbos are brilliant! If you want to go fast get an X5 or F6X. Just dont tow or go off road.

As stated ...... learn to drive a deisel & 4 x 4.

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EF Futura 07 · 08-12-2007, 07:00 PM

AUSLANDAU:

i have done over 500,000ks of bush driving (im only 19) ( i also worked for a Worldwide car detailing mob who had a contract with 99% of all car makes in South Sydney, belive it or not i have drivin 90% of all cars out therer old/new (holden,ford,hyundai,daewoo,merc,bmw,toyota,nissan ,audi etc etc) . i have been to every town in NSW/VIC/QLD atleast once. i have grown up in a 4WD/Truck's family and as stated i have my MR licence. so i would know how to drive a "DEISEL"!

FORDY: Personally i like the new rodeo T/D out of all of the utes (lowlux (its not high enough even in 4wd spec

: ), BT-50, ranger, triton,navara)

**Falcon Coupe** · 08-12-2007, 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EF Futura 07

AUSLANDAU:

i have done over 500,000ks of bush driving (im only 19)

So let me get this right, you have done the equivalent of 26,000 klm per year from birth to age 19 ?

Auslandau · 08-12-2007, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EF Futura 07

AUSLANDAU:

i have done over 500,000ks of bush driving (im only 19) ( i also worked for a Worldwide car detailing mob who had a contract with 99% of all car makes in South Sydney, belive it or not i have drivin 90% of all cars out therer old/new (holden,ford,hyundai,daewoo,merc,bmw,toyota,nissan ,audi etc etc) . i have been to every town in NSW/VIC/QLD atleast once. i have grown up in a 4WD/Truck's family and as stated i have my MR licence. so i would know how to drive a "DEISEL"!

FORDY: Personally i like the new rodeo T/D out of all of the utes (lowlux (its not high enough even in 4wd spec

: ), BT-50, ranger, triton,navara)

Well what can I say then ..... Youv'e done so many miles, worked on every sort of car, been every where man, grown up with 4x4's and like so many 'P's out there just are the best and knowing of drivers. Sorry I musn't know what I (or those above) are talking about and I do appologies.

Me? Over 40, have driven a "Dont know" km's, owned 5 brands of diesels including Toyota, Nissan, Ford (new Ranger at the moment) Pajero, Land Rover. All 4x4's by the way ..... Grown up in the bush and lived all over Aust moving back to the city before you were born ........ SO dont come the "I know all because I am 19 and driven heaps bit!"

You asked for opinions and thats mine. You just need a bit more practice ......!

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rodderz · 08-12-2007, 08:02 PM

This guy should run advanced driver trainer courses, being the holder of so many km's under the belt, maybe be the guest writer on 4x4 monthly too

MONSOON · 08-12-2007, 08:25 PM

I was in the market for a NOT a prado/hilux diesel 4wd about 7months ago, I loved the power & styling inside & out of the navara/pathy but the engine noise inside the cab was horrible(maybe it was just that example but it was like they'd left out some sound deadening on the firewall or something), the seats were crap & the ergonomics were terrible, so I bought a mitsubishi, motor & gearbox not as quick but most other things much better

Sourbastard · 08-12-2007, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EF Futura 07

AUSLANDAU:

i have done over 500,000ks of bush driving (im only 19) ( i also worked for a Worldwide car detailing mob who had a contract with 99% of all car makes in South Sydney, belive it or not i have drivin 90% of all cars out therer old/new (holden,ford,hyundai,daewoo,merc,bmw,toyota,nissan ,audi etc etc) . i have been to every town in NSW/VIC/QLD atleast once. i have grown up in a 4WD/Truck's family and as stated i have my MR licence. so i would know how to drive a "DEISEL"!

FORDY: Personally i like the new rodeo T/D out of all of the utes (lowlux (its not high enough even in 4wd spec

: ), BT-50, ranger, triton,navara)

XR Martin · 08-12-2007, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EF Futura 07

AUSLANDAU:

i have done over 500,000ks of bush driving (im only 19) ( i also worked for a Worldwide car detailing mob who had a contract with 99% of all car makes in South Sydney, belive it or not i have drivin 90% of all cars out therer old/new (holden,ford,hyundai,daewoo,merc,bmw,toyota,nissan ,audi etc etc) . i have been to every town in NSW/VIC/QLD atleast once. i have grown up in a 4WD/Truck's family and as stated i have my MR licence. so i would know how to drive a "DEISEL"!

All that experience yet you dont know how to spell it.

xquizd · 08-12-2007, 10:40 PM

Lol! :-)

debacle-racing · 08-12-2007, 10:49 PM

ef futura,
my navara is a little peaky around the 2200rpm mark also, just learn the car, remember that it isnt a 4.2 td cruiser, you only have 2.5 l to play with, but you have 6 gears to help you along.

cheers, justin.

EF Futura 07 · 09-12-2007, 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XR6 Martin

All that experience yet you dont know how to spell it.

hello. why do you think it is in caps? i put it like that because someone cant spell

EF Futura 07 · 09-12-2007, 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by debacle-racing

ef futura,
my navara is a little peaky around the 2200rpm mark also, just learn the car, remember that it isnt a 4.2 td cruiser, you only have 2.5 l to play with, but you have 6 gears to help you along.

cheers, justin.

yes, thanks for that.