Too much air

vegabass · 03-01-2006, 11:29 PM

Id like to know if a engine has access to, to much air will it loose torque?

eg cut a hole over TB stick a pod on it sticking out of bonnet.

will this give better throttle responce but loose torque?

svo347 · 03-01-2006, 11:32 PM

No.. If the runner length is the same , you will not lose torque, if anything you'll gain abit of hp because you have actually made a cold air intake

snypereb · 03-01-2006, 11:38 PM

Shouldnt loose any torque mate are you going to do this to your car?

rob_liss_lms10 · 03-01-2006, 11:40 PM

what if you only had about 10cm of piping from throttle body to pod filter?

geckoGT · 03-01-2006, 11:41 PM

Problem is it would be a cop magnet, not to mention pretty rice unless done very well. Drew you will not need to do it, not with whats on the horizon.

geckoGT · 03-01-2006, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by rob_liss_lms10

what if you only had about 10cm of piping from throttle body to pod filter?

As long as you maintain air velocity it should not matter, it is the runner length and flow that affects torque the most.

vegabass · 03-01-2006, 11:44 PM

Not for me,

I wont need it!!!!!

Just a mate who has a simular set up * not actually a hole in the bonnet....just a black vent with a pod in it*

rob_liss_lms10 · 03-01-2006, 11:47 PM

runner length?

geckoGT · 03-01-2006, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by rob_liss_lms10

runner length?

The individual pipes from the plennum chamber to the ports in the head, general rule is long runners give good low down torque, short give top end (hope I got that right). That is why the runner length on the I6 changes, gives both.

rob_liss_lms10 · 03-01-2006, 11:52 PM

cool.thanks gecko

svo347 · 03-01-2006, 11:56 PM

Spot on Gek.

geckoGT · 03-01-2006, 11:58 PM

Yay, I got something right today!

EDXR8 · 04-01-2006, 12:07 AM

The main question is why would you need it, the stock airbox setup provides more than enough air for any N/A 4L and most V8's. As said, a pod is a cop magnet and needs to be shielded fom engien temps otherwise it will cost you money. You want to maintain a reasonably stright entry into the throttle body to minimise turbulence, other than that it really shouldn't make a huge differnce what is before the throttle body.

KEV EB XR8 · 04-01-2006, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by geckoxr8

. Drew you will not need to do it, not with whats on the horizon.

This has more to it than meets the eye.

Sharing is caring gecko

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vegabass · 04-01-2006, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by KEV EB XR8

This has more to it than meets the eye.

Sharing is caring gecko

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soon enough Kev soon enough. My mechanic wants to rip the donk out next week so it will be done soon enough.

I love Big Dog Garage........ he makes big HP!!!

geckoGT · 05-01-2006, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by KEV EB XR8

This has more to it than meets the eye.

Sharing is caring gecko

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Sorry dude but this one is a Mini Car Club secret and you don't qualify, you will have to wait for the public unveiling.

jabba · 05-01-2006, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by geckoxr8

The individual pipes from the plennum chamber to the ports in the head, general rule is long runners give good low down torque, short give top end (hope I got that right). That is why the runner length on the I6 changes, gives both.

How does the runner lenght change on the I6?

vegabass · 05-01-2006, 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by jabba

How does the runner lenght change on the I6?

There is a valve that opens and closes with the vacume lines.

ill show you next time i see you.

Racecraft · 05-01-2006, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by vegabass

There is a valve that opens and closes with the vacume lines.

ill show you next time i see you.

The rpm switches the butterflies inside the manifold, done by vacuum