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Old 25-04-2008, 07:38 PM   #1
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Default Fuel stealing still going on

Got up this morning to my fuel filler cap ripped off and the cap hanging.
went and got keys to see how much fuel they had flogged as we had just put in a heap in yesterday, lucky for us they got none or very little.
We have the new shape focus.
looks like they had ripped the flap off first but the inner plastic door also covers the cap so they broke that, but cause it is hard to fill it must be hard to get it out

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Old 25-04-2008, 07:40 PM   #2
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In one respect that's why I don't mind having a non-locking fuel cap. At least there will be no damage.
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Old 25-04-2008, 07:45 PM   #3
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sorry to hear scumbags i,m getting a lockable fuel cap ,fuel is becoming more expensive than to fix the car plus least for mine wreakers have my model
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Old 25-04-2008, 08:02 PM   #4
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Happened to me a couple of years ago with my old Fairlane, in my driveway the night I'd just filled the tank............they were generous enough to leave me enough fuel to get to just get to the servo (only 50 or so meters down the road) in the morning lol.
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Old 25-04-2008, 08:09 PM   #5
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Hmmmm I'm suspecting this is happening in my area too - and I'm being serious here but my Falcon's fuel consumption doesn't match with how much fuel is disappearing frm the tank. I don't have leak but a quick diag of the motor has revealed nothing is broken, ECU reports fuel usage in the expected range BUT somehow the fuel disappears.

Is it possible to steal fuel in Falcons without leaving a trace of the crime?
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Old 25-04-2008, 09:25 PM   #6
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Hunter I wouldn’t think so but I could be wrong.
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Old 25-04-2008, 09:32 PM   #7
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LPG is looking better all the time. Lets see the suckers try to stick a hose in the gas filler
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Old 26-04-2008, 11:57 AM   #8
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Hunter I wouldn’t think so but I could be wrong.

What why not? If its a non-lockable cap then why not? Once you've taken the fuel just close the cap again. Impossible to know if petrols been stolen or not...and yes this is reguarly happening in my area! Woken up 3-4 times in past 6 months to find both my cars and missus' car has been drained..very very frustrating! :@
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Old 26-04-2008, 01:09 PM   #9
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What why not? If its a non-lockable cap then why not?
Not necessarily. A lot of new cars have anti siphon screens half way down the filler neck.
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Don't be fooled into thinking that a locking fuel cap will save you though, I've gone through all the ones I have at work (brand new) and managed to open about 12 of them (all different part numbers too) with the same key. And if you dont have a key a screwdriver can get them off fairly easily too.
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Old 26-04-2008, 02:04 PM   #11
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The tank on my bike got drained out the front of my GF's house the other night. The pricks had the cheek to leave enough in the reserve and turn the tap to Reserve and as the tank was only half full when i left it i didn't even notice anything odd. Got out on the highway and bike just died. Half a km walk to the servo across 4 lanes of traffic wasn't fun but could have been worse. Now i always check before riding off!!
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Old 26-04-2008, 02:17 PM   #12
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I had someone try to steal fuel out of my car a few years ago. Being an EA Ghia, it still uses the same fuel door as a GL (with the little finger hole) but can only be opened via the button on the dash. Anyway, someone obviously forced it open using the finger hole which resulted in a big crack across the fuel door. They got no fuel out of it, but the fuel door was stuffed
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LPG is looking better all the time. Lets see the suckers try to stick a hose in the gas filler
I came back from a delivery in College Street Sydney to find "someone" kneeling next to my fuel filler on the ute with a hose. I get closer to the ute ... he looks at me with a puzzled look and asked "How do ya get da Petty out Brudda???"

I told him to get the hell away from the ute ... but I was so close to laughing at him though.

Thank God for LPG and one-way valves.
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Old 26-04-2008, 04:28 PM   #14
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Yeh this sorta stuff is gonna start happening more often I feel. It really ****es me off. I hate theft.
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Don't be fooled into thinking that a locking fuel cap will save you though, I've gone through all the ones I have at work (brand new) and managed to open about 12 of them (all different part numbers too) with the same key. And if you dont have a key a screwdriver can get them off fairly easily too.
Probably not the smartest post.

There could be dumb thieves among us.
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Old 26-04-2008, 04:59 PM   #16
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Probably not the smartest post.

There could be dumb thieves among us.
better to have this info and do something about it than find out the hard way.
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better to have this info and do something about it than find out the hard way.
I totally agree with you b2tf.
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better to have this info and do something about it than find out the hard way.
What info is that? The fact that locking fuel caps are futile against wanton thieves? That may have been enough of a deterant for some thieves and saved 1 or 2 of us, but now you've told the whole world that they are pointless and easily side stepped.
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Old 26-04-2008, 05:12 PM   #19
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fuel stealing isn't new...

i've suspected it in the st. albans area .. luckily i dont have to go there anymore.
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Locking fuel caps are up there with Lock Nuts for wheels, Club Locks for steering wheels etc etc. A detterent is all they are. Most people would know this already.

And if you think a thief would open a fuel door and see a locking cap and just say "Oh Damn, cant get none out of this", you need to wake up to yourself. Thats my 2c worth anyways.
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What info is that? The fact that locking fuel caps are futile against wanton thieves? That may have been enough of a deterant for some thieves and saved 1 or 2 of us, but now you've told the whole world that they are pointless and easily side stepped.
Mate if you honestly think a locking fuel cap would save you then it is not a case of if but rather when will your car be done over.

I'm also just about to drop the bombshell that the moon landing was fake and cars can be broken into with a piece of wire.
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What info is that? The fact that locking fuel caps are futile against wanton thieves? That may have been enough of a deterant for some thieves and saved 1 or 2 of us, but now you've told the whole world that they are pointless and easily side stepped.
thing is, if they really want the fuel they will get it somehow. Its not hard to stick a screwdriver through the plastic fuel tanks with a couple of drain pans under it.
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Old 26-04-2008, 05:27 PM   #23
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thing is, if they really want the fuel they will get it somehow. Its not hard to stick a screwdriver through the plastic fuel tanks with a couple of drain pans under it.
Now you've really shattered him
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Locking fuel caps are up there with Lock Nuts for wheels, Club Locks for steering wheels etc etc. A detterent is all they are. Most people would know this already.

And if you think a thief would open a fuel door and see a locking cap and just say "Oh Damn, cant get none out of this", you need to wake up to yourself. Thats my 2c worth anyways.
Harsh words.

You might notice i said dumb criminals. I even bold and underlined it. You must have missed it.

Yes i do think a locking fuel cap will deter dumb criminals. I would consider anyone that needs to steal fuel dumb. I would also call anyone that rubbishes people for trying everything they can to protect themselves dumb.
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I'm with you, it's even worse when it's commited by State and Federal govts
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Harsh words.

You might notice i said dumb criminals. I even bold and underlined it. You must have missed it.

Yes i do think a locking fuel cap will deter dumb criminals. I would consider anyone that needs to steal fuel dumb. I would also call anyone that rubbishes people for trying everything they can to protect themselves dumb.
just like i would call someone who, going by their username, owns a TS50, and has missed a post above stating most new cars (including AU's) have an anti-siphon filter in the filler neck, DUMB.
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Harsh words.

You might notice i said dumb criminals. I even bold and underlined it. You must have missed it.

Yes i do think a locking fuel cap will deter dumb criminals. I would consider anyone that needs to steal fuel dumb. I would also call anyone that rubbishes people for trying everything they can to protect themselves dumb.
Hey, im not rubbishing anyone who tries to protect their possessions mate. I use a Club lock, Locking fuel cap and Lock Nuts on my wheels but i also realise that if anyone wants my car, a Club lock wont stop em. Likewise with the fuel and wheels.
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I would prefer to give them the easiest access to the fuel. Replacing $30 worth of juice is cheaper than having to repair any damage they do to your car trying to get a locked cap off.
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You've got that right. Very funny.
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just like i would call someone who, going by their username, owns a TS50, and has missed a post above stating most new cars (including AU's) have an anti-siphon filter in the filler neck, DUMB.
That same person owns an XA coupe GT, XB sedan GT as well as an EL GT.

I don't understand why you are getting personal.

The mere point im trying to make is, we should all try and take every precaution to protect ourselves and our prized posessions.

You told everyone how to get around 1 of those precautions which i think is irresponsible.
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