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Old 12-10-2011, 07:05 PM   #1
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Default Container ship 'Rena' run aground off NZ

I was just checking the NZ news site www.stuff.co.nz about the stricken cargo ship off the coast, and near the bottom of the article I saw some quite heartbreaking news for one Ford owner. The article outlines that around 70 of the containers have fallen into the sea, mostly containing chemicals and some empty. When describing what was in the remaining containers, the article states the following: "...The remaining 1357 containers had food, general cargo, refrigerated goods, and one Mustang car..."

It's going to be potentially quite damaging to the environment, and I hope the shipping company's insurance covers the cleanup, but you have to feel for the owner of the Mustang right now. I hope they get it off safely.

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Old 12-10-2011, 07:51 PM   #2
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I think salvaging the "bits of ship" (Hasn't it broken it's back?) are going to far over shadow the poor guys Mustang.
But, yeah... You'd be spitting chips if this was your new toy!
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Old 12-10-2011, 08:08 PM   #3
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Pics here....

http://www.news.com.au/pictures/gall...5150251?page=1

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Old 12-10-2011, 08:14 PM   #4
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Bloody hell!
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Old 12-10-2011, 08:19 PM   #5
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A Kiwi living in WA has his 72 Monaro on it too.

I'm more concerned about the crap that is washing up on our beaches !
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I bet the Mustangs in the Blue container
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Old 12-10-2011, 08:23 PM   #7
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I bet the Mustangs in the Blue container
There was some blue ones in the water already
Have to agree I'd be worried about not if anything comes outta that ship, but when.
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Doesnt the law state if you done have insurance you could be up for the cost of retreiving your goods from the ocean floor. Could be costly
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while`st I feel for the cars on board and there owners, its nothing compared to whats gonna happen when this thing breaks up...
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Let's face it if you are willing to ship a car overseas and not have insurance, well....
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while`st I feel for the cars on board and there owners, its nothing compared to whats gonna happen when this thing breaks up...
yeah thats right. the link that steve posted , pic four show the hull with a massive fracture in it. Doesn,t look like it'ill survive.
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yeah thats right. the link that steve posted , pic four show the hull with a massive fracture in it. Doesn,t look like it'ill survive.
Its back is broken, its not going anywhere in one piece.

Edit: is there even a dry dock large enough in NZ to handle a ship that size?
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Old 12-10-2011, 09:55 PM   #13
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This bugger is spewing at a great speed. When it breaks it'll be humungous spread.
Now this is going to be enviromental damage but Iam thinking (and sometimes thats dangerous) but could they not set fire to the spreading oilis or are they to heavy to burn. Yup thats enviromental damage as well but would be cheaper in the long term?
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It could be worse, it could be a tanker rather then a container ship.

Hopefully they can track down any/all containers floating around though....preferably before someone hits them.
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Its back is broken, its not going anywhere in one piece.

Edit: is there even a dry dock large enough in NZ to handle a ship that size?
Our largest Navy ship hmnzs Canterbury is ~130m long and goes to Melbourne or Brissy for maintenance as it is too big for the largest dry dock in NZ. ANZAC class frigates at ~115m are about as big as it can take as you can see from the pics below. I snapped these a few years ago when I was in the navy. This container ship is about twice as long as our ANZACs, for now. Hopefully when she breaks its in daylight so they get it on camera.





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Now that is unfortunate...
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I was just checking the NZ news site www.stuff.co.nz about the stricken cargo ship off the coast, and near the bottom of the article I saw some quite heartbreaking news for one Ford owner. The article outlines that around 70 of the containers have fallen into the sea, mostly containing chemicals and some empty. When describing what was in the remaining containers, the article states the following: "...The remaining 1357 containers had food, general cargo, refrigerated goods, and one Mustang car..."

It's going to be potentially quite damaging to the environment, and I hope the shipping company's insurance covers the cleanup, but you have to feel for the owner of the Mustang right now. I hope they get it off safely.

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If the experience in Qld is anything to go by this will cost tens of millions which the owners must pay for , certainly that is one of the most beautiful places that I have seen on the planet and seeing this occour is criminal , it's to be hoped the containers and oil are removed quickly
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I'm over there right now...The back almost must break as it's not resting on the sea floor.. Where the crease is and back is above sea floor and cargo weight with sea action will break it up..
I'm at Whangamata now, just 80klm north of the Mount / Tauranga..Where the cargo ship is..
Meat patties where washed up on beach yesterday...
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look at those containers just hanging by their twist locks ,

who is going to volunteer to climb up there and undo the twist locks if they get a sea crane near to unload them?
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Heard on the news that so far it's leaked around 300 tonnes of oil/fuel...
It still has 13,000 tonne on board!
Also reports of some pretty "nasty" stuff (explosive/toxic) in some of the containers....
Gotta feel for our Kiwi neighbours, they've really copped it last 12 months or so.
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saw this on another site... got a laugh out of it. at least some kiwis are keeping a sense of humor in light of a pretty devastating year...

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Heard on the news that so far it's leaked around 300 tonnes of oil/fuel...
It still has 13,000 tonne on board!
Also reports of some pretty "nasty" stuff (explosive/toxic) in some of the containers....
Gotta feel for our Kiwi neighbours, they've really copped it last 12 months or so.
It had 1700 tonnes of heavy fuel oil on board to begin with and has lost approx 300.
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I'm at Whangamata now
Hey whats the situation there today (Whanga) I just left there on Wednesday. I'm hoping nothing comes that far north.
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Papamoa Domain - My work is literally 2 mins up the road inland from here. When I went outside to buy lunch yesterday, I was almost knocked over by the stink of oil fumes.
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The salvage team have released an eerie video taken aboard the Rena yesterday. I'd like to see some of the armchair experts criticising recovery efforts dare to step foot on here...
http://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/r...25/On-the-Rena
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Pretty nasty looking crack in the hull at the 3min 14 sec mark. Really doesn't make me think that any salvage operations stand much of a chance.
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Hey whats the situation there today (Whanga) I just left there on Wednesday. I'm hoping nothing comes that far north.
Some clear oil at present which seems strange ...
Possibly from patties ??
Hope thats all they get...
The locals want too help clean up oil off beach..
The authorities won't let them...
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That is a tragic scene, honestly I thought most ships where automated around areas such as this? Its not like shipping started last week.
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While the ship will have an Autopilot they are only as good as the info fed into them and are not able to warn of collision, all they can give is an off course alarm, that is if it has been activated....

We have ARPA Radar, we have AIS, we have ECDIS, we have forward looking Sonar, we have Paper Charts, we have the Mark 1 Eyeball, we are taught Advanced Navigation techniques....

All those things will help you sail safely around the world without hitting anything, what we don't have though is the ability to control human nature.....
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Celebrating your birthday is not a good mix..
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