First DIY oil change (Or, You could have picked a better spot)

cobrin · 28-02-2020, 10:26 AM

I'd say there'd be serious risk if used for an extended period time that the EGR and DPF will be adversely affected. It's not a catalyst oil so you run the risk.

Then there is the engine, check up the oil's spec's and look at its sheer capacity hopefully it's high enough to keep the cam lobes protected.

NZ XR6 · 02-03-2020, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by cobrin

I'd say there'd be serious risk if used for an extended period time that the EGR and DPF will be adversely affected. It's not a catalyst oil so you run the risk.

Then there is the engine, check up the oil's spec's and look at its sheer capacity hopefully it's high enough to keep the cam lobes protected.

C3 is HTHS >= 3.5 and A5/B5 is 2.9 - 3.5. C2 is >= 2.9.

My conclusion looking at this a few years ago, before ACEA-16, was C3 oils provide more engine protection than A3/B4 at the expense of fuel economy.

I use the Fuchs ProFlex and find it to be very good. There seems to be noticeably fewer regens than with the other oils I've tried, and the oil consumption is very low. The Penrite C3 also seems good, and is cheaper if you buy it when discounted.

rondeo · 02-03-2020, 08:21 PM

My FUCHS agent in AUS tells me PRO-FLEX is discontinued.
It's FLEX23 (C2/3) now, or else use ENVIRO.. for Ford.

However ENVIRO for Ford duratorq is stated to meet 913A and B, which is well below the C2/3 specs in all respects, including exhaust aftertreatment compataibility Go figure.

NZ XR6 · 02-03-2020, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by rondeo

My FUCHS agent in AUS tells me PRO-FLEX is discontinued.
It's FLEX23 (C2/3) now, or else use ENVIRO.. for Ford.

However ENVIRO for Ford duratorq is stated to meet 913A and B, which is well below the C2/3 specs in all respects, including exhaust aftertreatment compataibility Go figure.

I'm about to buy some, so good to know that thanks.

The Fuchs oil for Duratorq does meet A5/B5 according to this: https://www.fuchs.com/de/en/special/...-dt-sae-5w-30/

I suspect it's a mid SAPS oil that meets M2C913D, but I haven't been able to find any details.