Motor Magazine Aug 2009 - Features F6

Corzza · 15-07-2009, 02:28 PM

Great article on page 44

F6 vs BMW 335i vs Audi S4

Wont give anything away but the F6 holds its own

Article on page 108

TOP 10 AUSSIE MUSCLE CARS

10 - '72 VH Charger E49

9 - '08 HSV W427

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8 - '72 Torana GTR XU-1

7 - '69 Holden HT Monaro 350

6 - '88 HSV VL Group A

5 - '67 Ford XR Falcon GT

4 - '71 XY Falcon GT HO :sm_headba

3 - '85 HDT VK SS Group A

2 - '77 Holden Torana A9X

1 - '08 FPV F6 WINNER :evilsasmo

DBourne · 15-07-2009, 02:38 PM

not to start a fight, but i dont exactly count an f6 as a "muscle" car

Dave_au · 15-07-2009, 02:57 PM

Yeah it's a little bit naive to suggest a 2009 build car is no. 1. in a top ten aussie muscle car list, even before getting into the muscle "cubic inches vs forced induction" argument.

The magazine would have given Ford more merit in awarding it to the BA F6 Typhoon, but as everyone chooses to ignore, the car is gracefully sliding down the resale lists as Ford keeps on cannibalising it by evolving the performance and power of FG XR6Ts.

FreddyDUZ747 · 15-07-2009, 02:58 PM

Phase 4 should be included.

Id also have the VH GRP111 replace the Vk.Was the quickest of all Brock carbied cars,not to mention last of the chrome.

flappist · 15-07-2009, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by SgtBourne

not to start a fight, but i dont exactly count an f6 as a "muscle" car

Don't feel bad, most V8 enthusiests don't....

FPV+fteT3 · 15-07-2009, 03:09 PM

yay 6 holdens made the list that will guarantee the readers come back next month

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FPV8U · 15-07-2009, 03:12 PM

Not much credibility in that list with a VK SS beating the Phase 3.

gcg2503 · 15-07-2009, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SgtBourne

not to start a fight, but i don't exactly count an f6 as a "muscle" car

I own a Turbo 6 and don't call that drive train one that is synonymous with "muscle car"

Fairlane · 15-07-2009, 03:22 PM

The GTHO did not win? Fastest 4 door production car in the world not good enough?

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VKSS but no VN Group A, VK SS in front of the 350 Monaro. Sounds like a list just made up on the spot to me.

HSVKILLA · 15-07-2009, 03:33 PM

Those two holdens in front of the GTHO::::YEAH RIGHT

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Wretched · 15-07-2009, 03:36 PM

Are they really listed in any particular order or just listed in one group?
Some of you need to relax hey!! sheesh

flappist · 15-07-2009, 04:10 PM

It is always amusing to read all the arcing up when a list is made and someones's "precious" does not win.

A Ford is on the top of the pile. The FG F6 is the quickest Australian made Ford ever and the quickest Australian car with an Australian designed and built engine. Be happy with this, next year it might be different.

Some seem to complain that certain holdens are above the GTHO on the list, but weren't they quicker, even though they were later?

The world does not stand still and what was once the leader is now just a part of history.

Just like the Roman Empire, the Supermarine Spitfire, the Tyranosaurus Rex or Michael Jackson, being at the top is a very transitory thing.

R-Design · 15-07-2009, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave_au

The magazine would have given Ford more merit in awarding it to the BA F6 Typhoon, but as everyone chooses to ignore, the car is gracefully sliding down the resale lists as Ford keeps on cannibalising it by evolving the performance and power of FG XR6Ts.

WTF

Never though I'd see Ford get paid out on for improving the breed.

XD 351 Ute · 15-07-2009, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by flappist

It is always amusing to read all the arcing up when a list is made and someones's "precious" does not win.

A Ford is on the top of the pile. The FG F6 is the quickest Australian made Ford ever and the quickest Australian car with an Australian designed and built engine. Be happy with this, next year it might be different.

Some seem to complain that certain holdens are above the GTHO on the list, but weren't they quicker, even though they were later?

The world does not stand still and what was once the leader is now just a part of history.

Just like the Roman Empire, the Supermarine Spitfire, the Tyranosaurus Rex or Michael Jackson, being at the top is a very transitory thing.

Ahh yes, the the Tyranosaurus Rex.

Now that was a weapon! Even better than the STi if I recall......

Ed

Dave_au · 15-07-2009, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Boss315

WTF

Never though I'd see Ford get paid out on for improving the breed.

No it's more along the lines of calling an Evo 10 the world's best rally car when an Evo 11 is around the corner - the F6 is still evolving, it's not at its peak and therefore shouldn't warrant number one spot as on average, a decade later it's "just another turbo'ed falcon".

All those other cars on that list pretty much represented the pinnacle of their breed.

HO 3 · 15-07-2009, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SgtBourne

not to start a fight, but i dont exactly count an f6 as a "muscle" car

Lets just call it....Ford Australias fastest and greatest car to date then, I think we are very lucky that Ford Australia is making such a good high performance sedan that offers so much bang for the buck in 2009.

Cheers Mick

flappist · 15-07-2009, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave_au

No it's more along the lines of calling an Evo 10 the world's best rally car when an Evo 11 is around the corner - the F6 is still evolving, it's not at its peak and therefore shouldn't warrant number one spot as on average, a decade later it's "just another turbo'ed falcon".

All those other cars on that list pretty much represented the pinnacle of their breed.

So what you are saying is that in 1971 the GTHO P3 was just another car evolving into something better? And as it is not as quick as a FG GT it is now just another V8 falcon.......

Are you sure that is what you are saying.......

Rude · 15-07-2009, 06:34 PM

What a joke that list is. Was it a survey or someones opinion?

**DJM83** · 15-07-2009, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by flappist

Don't feel bad, most V8 enthusiests don't....

Not the old muscle car arguement again. Even modern V8's arent muscle cars either

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Norm i hope your not reading this

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Corzza · 15-07-2009, 06:43 PM

I suppose go out and have a read of the article gents

Ofcourse not everyone is going to agree!

Can you imagine if the R8 made number 1! Everyone on here would be throwing their arms in the air

**ebxr8240** · 15-07-2009, 06:49 PM

fatnlow · 15-07-2009, 07:10 PM

HAHA Thanks to all those getting their bum in a bind over a list that a magazine has released.
A most enjoyable few minutes of reading.

I would happily have any one of those cars from that list in my garage. Or all of them.. preferably.

GlenW · 15-07-2009, 07:17 PM

I would count the F6 as a muscle car and any of the other modern V8s for that matter, they may not be the originals but are muscle cars none the less. An XY GT was a fast Falcon back in the 70s just as a FG GT is a fast Falcon today there really is no difference in the intent of the car.

Congrats to the F6.

barbarian · 15-07-2009, 07:22 PM

Get with the time folks... V8's are old news

4Vman · 15-07-2009, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DJM83

Not the old muscle car arguement again. Even modern V8's arent muscle cars either

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Norm i hope your not reading this

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I love this annual thread, every year Motor bring out the "best musclecar ever list" every year its different... so what changed?
Every year it brings out much gnashing of teeth and wringing of hands..
I find it funny now!

Oh, and to answer your question? well only 8 out of the 10 have racing pedigree!!

**DJM83** · 15-07-2009, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by fatnlow

HAHA Thanks to all those getting their bum in a bind over a list that a magazine has released.
A most enjoyable few minutes of reading.

I would happily have any one of those cars from that list in my garage. Or all of them.. preferably.

Exact opposite mate. I couldnt care what is on the list. I was just stirring up a few people

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phillyc · 15-07-2009, 07:24 PM

Congrats to the F6. Hopefully in 2yrs I will be able to buy a newish one.

Dave_au · 15-07-2009, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by flappist

So what you are saying is that in 1971 the GTHO P3 was just another car evolving into something better? And as it is not as quick as a FG GT it is now just another V8 falcon.......

Are you sure that is what you are saying.......

No I'm saying the FG will evolve into something even better and therefore I don't think it should be included in the muscle car list - I would rather see the BA F6 Typhoon included as it was "the first of breed" (ignoring XR6T) of the high performance falcon turbos.

Dave_au · 15-07-2009, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 4Vman

Oh, and to answer your question? well only 8 out of the 10 have racing pedigree!!

Bingo on that front too.

4Vman · 15-07-2009, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave_au

No I'm saying the FG will evolve into something even better and therefore I don't think it should be included in the muscle car list - I would rather see the BA F6 Typhoon included as it was "the first of breed" (ignoring XR6T) of the high performance falcon turbos.

Every car on the list evolved from something and evolved into something better.. (except the E49.. not sure how that got there..!)