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I was exposed for the first time today, to an unrehearsed haka at a wake for an acquaintance. It's hard to put into words, how profoundly different this was, to what is almost a "showboating" performance in many sporting and social events with an NZ connection.
To witness someone quivering with energy, as if every fibre in their body is hyper-focused, on point and almost supernaturally driven, to feel the ground shake as feet pound, to observe absolute silence as all commands complete attention - this was beyond remarkable. Even now, eight hours later, I'm still battered by the emotional "charge" of this experience. It's given some insight into how confronting and terrifying the Māori warriors must have been to colonial arrivals. |
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Well put mate, I felt exactly the same when I saw the kiwi teenagers perform one after the recent shootings for a fellow classmate.
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I know I'm probably in the minority, but I'm a bit over it.
It's creeping into all sorts of events, even here in Oz, more and more. I find it quite confronting and threatening. I know, that's what it's supposed to be. It's a war cry/dance is it not, why do they do it at funerals? Sorry to all the Kiwis out there.
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Haka has many different meanings, but your right it is over used in many sporting and social events these days. It takes a personal experience like the op’s to reinforce what they’re all about. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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No disrespect to the Haka intended but Tommy is a funny guy.....
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When I was year twelve, we went on a school history trip to Anzac cove, Western Front, Ypres, Normandy etc. Teachers wanted us to do the haka at the significant war memorials, Chanuk Bair etc. as if there was nothing more pathetic than 30 white teenagers from the more affluent inner city suburbs of Wellington at a nearly all white school doing a haka. The only thing that could top that for cringe worthy ness is ****ed white kiwis on their OE in the UK/Europe/Canada doing the haka in a bar or street, all for attention. I’m not bothered by it, but I’ve never got my head around the haka at war memorials and Anzac Day, its contradictory and it would be akin to dragging a woman through the front doors of a women’s refuge or sufferage centre by her hair. |
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I have always despised how it's promoted all the time, I am sick of it's backward display and just such degenerate to display it, like they do everywhere, it should be kept back in their tribal settings.
It makes me angry that I will walk away and dismiss such as just backward display of stupidity or I will just feel like I want to take them on, when they do it as such always comes across as totally insulting to me. Anyone who try's to act tough or such in front of me ![]() ![]() |
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It’s a cultural thing, are you intimidated or insulted by any other cultural displays or just the haka? |
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Haka has come a long way since this..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emJyEa4z2Ec Growing up as a Kiwi and loving rugby, I always look forward to watching it at the start of every All Blacks game. but it doesn't belong everywhere This is ok with the Tall blacks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2GrYTMOfbg These are not, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ko3kYNKuX8s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9BJbQte-3c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGjs8lD-Q_M
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Some very good posts, I like the ones from you white kiwis, I would feel the same I expect.
I have always liked it but it is overdone in this day and age. They should treasure it more and for high profile select events. Not sure about every AB game, friendlies what for but full on International games absolutely. Question ? Which other NZ team sports use it ? or is it mostly the AB's ?
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All blacks and kiwis are the only mainstream/major sports I think that do it before each game as part of their official pre game. Most others it’s more of a case by case deal. |
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