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I love how wild this thing looks and being a McLaren its performance will match its looks. The supercars and hypercars that are being released within the next year or two are going to be awesome.
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Did they use/copy the Ultima GTR [google that] again as a benchmark?
But in the eyes of the law...it's still a kit car [purchased outside engine, not own made] No right hand drive [odd for UK made] or centre drive position I am glad Porker and Mac went first, showed its hand, now Ferrari know what the targets to beat are for its F70 Enzo.2 Still prefer the origional, its a icon Nice job all the same Bruce, woops i mean Ron! Last edited by RASER; 20-09-2012 at 09:21 AM. Reason: Another Ultima clone? |
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HA, Ferrari, I'll be more impressed when they sort out their reliability and quality issues.
Kit car? WTF? The engine will be based upon their own in house one used in the MP4-12C. As for design who do McLaren need to copy? It looks like a McLaren.
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The Macs use an in house engine. WTF are you on about.
This and the new Prancing horse are the ultimate hyper cars. But I'd still prefer an Aventador |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McLaren_M838T_engine Well it is made in Uk all the same... http://www.ricardo.com/en-gb/News--M...ot-production/ That's old news....they do *try* to keep it quiet! Last edited by RASER; 20-09-2012 at 09:34 AM. Reason: ULTIMA GTR CLONE? **POWERED BY NISSAN!** |
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Just as the first was a BMW donk, I suppose Mclaren get to design the rocker cover, its Cosworth days again! ![]() *Maybe* in the future they can finally do it all themselves, like Ferrari, Lambo, Porker, AMG etc Last edited by RASER; 20-09-2012 at 09:56 AM. Reason: Powered by NISSAN! |
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I suppose that makes Holden Commodore V8s kit cars as well?
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But the V8's [THE best production V8 on the planet,,,,AND IT HAS PUSHRODS AND 2 VALVES PER CYLINDER] is made by the same company that owns Holden [GM] so no ![]() Last edited by RASER; 20-09-2012 at 10:14 AM. Reason: PUSHRODS AND 2 VALVES! |
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Who made these rules for what constitutes a kit car?
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That looks AMAZING
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Has the stench of ron dennis cheats to it
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Kit car, Nissan engine...WTF????
Glad i read the artical to find out that it's not a kit car, nor nissan powered. You can see a bit of the old F1 in the side profile, and buy the sounds of it the engine is all-but McLaren's first inhouse engine.
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Nice, have found something to park next to my red Spyder.
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It does look strikingly short for a "Hyper" car. The Aventador too has a similar look, but if you look at most super/hyper cars that have either been range toppers, limited editions or record breakers, they all seem to have extra length to them over your average V8 Ferrari/911 type supercar, as if its required for the extra stability.
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The GT500 engine is the most powerful production V8 ever made, it easily blows away the LS9 that is 0.4 litres bigger. And the Boss 302 Coyote makes more power than the LS3 with 1.2 litres less capacity. Its clearly evident which engine is superior, and its not the dinosaur one with laughable in this day and age pushrods. |
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I can't find anything here which supports that statement:
http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=e...D8ucmQWuooDwDg The McLaren appears to be coming fitted with a 700+kW V8 which makes the V8 Commodore seem fairly pathetic by comparison. |
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This thread is amusing with all the comments.
Nice to see McLaren back into it again though ... with something serious. Looks the good so far ... I like it. Can't wait to see the final product on the road either.
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Cant wait for the Cheapy 911 competitor to come out.
McLaren's comments on why they wont be using a V12 http://www.autoblog.com/2012/08/07/m...e-past-w-poll/
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I can see where he's getting at but much like the guys calling for the death of V8's it matters little how many cylinders there are. What matters most is how big those cylinders are.
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The question remains, who really designed/engineered it?
DOHC vs. Pushrod Engines GM Having decided that the engine would be entirely new, there was said to be discussions and temptations to design the Gen. III to have dual overhead cams - a very popular idea of the era. However this was a significantly more expensive way (in terms of cost and the number of parts) to build an engine and it would have also created a top-heavy and top-wide engine assembly. GM had learned a lesson while developing its LT-5 with Lotus for the Corvette ZR-1. It was a neat motor, but an unnecessarily expensive way to get 405 HP. Thus, GM engineers accepted the challenge to get all of the broad performance and efficiency out of a single-cam, pushrod and hydraulic lifter engine with two valves per cylinder that other manufacturers were getting out of complex DOHC multi-valve engines. The eventual result was a phenomenon.The engine profited from the excellent simplicity and elegant engineering built into the design since the inception of the Small Block in 1955. In fact, the motor produces more power more efficiently than multi-cam engines that cost significantly more to build. In terms of engineering, GM Powertrain has added a distinguished feather to their caps.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xgakhV3hEw Needs carbon fibre front discs, and i dont like the exhaust noice/rattle sound, sounds weird, the engine sounds great thoug Finally, a engine is but one compoent in a car, chassis, brakes, handling, feel, quality are part of the combo too. |
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A British racing and sports car company, started by a legendary Kiwi racing driver.... and no RHD?
Isn't that some kind of sacrilege?
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Can we keep it on the topic of the P1 please.
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a bit of a thread mine but i think it is worth it..
Did The McLaren P1 Just Obliterate The Lap Record At The Nurburgring? hmmm not sure myself...I mean I'd love to see it go that fast but not enough info yet, i men what tyres were they running?
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