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Lower production ? But they build to order.... How do they then double ? Hopefully their Tier 1 supplier of F6 bits can cope... |
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Although, not sure how good or bad this corporate box is; it's a "carbon copy" of the ZF. |
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Collateral damage to their own range while they have stock to shift....
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Seriously.. this new S/C GT is the most eagerly anticipated aussie performance model i can remember..! Even the new S/C XR8 is getting people keen!
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More here. Looks like caradvice is claiming the base auto will be the corporate 6sp (6r80) as per paxton's earlier post. http://www.caradvice.com.au/63984/my...-go-six-speed/
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Good news all round really. Base car will almost certainly get a fuel burn saving and if electric steering comes in that will help too, along with any euro 4 associated retuning. 6r80 is no mug niether...not ZF good but damn good. Will further enforce Ford's drivetrain superority over Holden. Their 6sp aint a patch on it according to reports from the states...
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As long as there will be an easy way to distinguish both transmissions without necessarily looking underneath the car.
I thought the first FGs went on sale in April, not February, 2008?
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So if the XR8 gets 315 kw can we expect a big power hike for the F6?
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One of which includes the term "substantial" power increase over the donor product or words to that effect. Since the Xr8 has had a bigger brother, that "substantial" has meant 30kws 30kws and 25 kws. If history is a guide and that’s no certainty the GT will be somewhere around 340 to 345ish or perhaps a version of it will be. As the F6 is based on the Xr6T the first series enjoyed 30 kws which was the norm, but the second series received 40 kws. There is no real pattern that is usable to predict the F6 power over the GT or under the GT. It started life 20 kws down and is now only 5 kws down. You could suggest that it might surpass the GT at that rate ;) If the assumption is correct and that the new XR8 is taking off when the current GT sits then it’s probably reasonable to assume the current F6 becomes the XR6 spec engine. Possibly not accurate though.
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It sounds like they, do but its product focused.
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XR8/GT are a different product line.
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Having said that, how can the FPV F6 justify its price tag if it's out powered by a Ford XR8? I think it's time for FPV to hit HSV a double fisted knockout blow. It's not outside of the realms of possibility for the GT & F6 to have higher power ratings than the GTS. It’d certainly give the Holden faithful something to think about.
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I'm very excited about the S/C V8 - in XR8 form it would be enough to get me to trade up from the BF2 XR6T (as long as fuel economy was relativly comparable).
Unless of course they introduced a DSG box for the turbo.... EDIT - having said, call me crazy, but I still find the 245kw in my stock T to be more than enough power. I find all this increase in power to 300kw+ totally unnecessary (but I certainly wouldn't knock it back). A switch to the S/C V8 would be purely for the exhaust note. I'd like to see other incremental changes besides power like DSG, bi-modal exhausts, xenons ect.
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People don't just shop on output numbers. The other point is there is only so much power you can get from 4.0l of capacity, and with EU4 and soon EU5 its going to get even harder to extract power... Coyote offers 25% more capacity to play with. 25% more of anything in this world is SIGNIFICANT.
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So what else will these new cars get? Xexons and Leds?
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It may not lead to an initial conquest sale but, it’ll lead to a lot more foot traffic coming through the dealership (which is ˝ the battle), and at worst a reduction in Holden/HSV sales. We saw at the launch of the BA that when Ford has the clear product advantage people will cross the floor in a big way. This should be no different if Ford/FPV is on the ball.
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as the XR6T had on the blown SV6...gone baby, gone... But seriously, Holden will come back with a slightly bigger engine, GM has a 6.5 litre engine that put out almost as much as the 7.0.. |
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Probably won't be long before the Government steps in again, just like they did with the Super Car Scare of the early 1970s. Some good reading about that here: http://forums.biante.com.au/showthread.php?t=826
"Think of the children" they'll say!
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so Ford and GM don't feel constrained by government threats any more... |
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