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I2 more Covid casual contacts in isolation in a Perth!
Who just happen to be Doctors at one of Perths finest private hospitals, geez how do you replace 12 doctors for 14 days at short notice. But, I know it's only WA so who cares?......well I and other residents of WA care, the fact one person can be a close casual contact to 12 different doctors is astounding really. As reported by Peter Law, West Australian newspaper. |
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28-01-2022, 12:07 PM | #18184 | ||
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Data valid as at 00:00 GMT January 27th 2022.
47,950 new cases for Australia and 77 deaths so the CMR is up to 0.142%. NSW reached a milestone with 1M cases since the pandemic began. NZ recorded 97 cases and 0 deaths for a CMR of 0.328%. The UK recorded 96,155 cases and 338 deaths for a CMR of 0.954%. 586,328 new cases in the USA yesterday and 3,914 deaths sees CMR at 1.212%. Other notable points: Global cases pass 366M; Global deaths pass 5.65M, the last 50k in 5 days; Europe sets a new daily high with 1,770,115 cases; Europe passes 120M cases; North America passes 87M cases; South America passes 47M cases; France passes 18M cases; Sweden passes 2M cases; Egypt (1,985); Bahrain (5,255); Estonia (6,238); Kuwait (6,515); Costa Rica (6,969); Lebanon (9,199); Lithuania (10,630); South Korea (14,514); Hungary (19,213); Chile (24,037); Ukraine (32,393); Austria (43,053); Denmark (47,914); Czechia (54,685); Poland (57,659); Portugal (65,706); Japan (69,736); Turkey (82,180); Russia (88,816) – the 7th consecutive day; Germany (189,363); and Brazil (228,972) ... all recorded new highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day. Albania move above the 90th percentile for the 10 day period while no countries drop below.
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28-01-2022, 12:27 PM | #18185 | |||
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I'm guessing WA is the only profit generating state at the moment. We need you to fund our lifestyles over in the east.
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Well, that is an improvement from yesterday I suppose. Is there actually a break down on delta vs omnicron? For cases, hospitilisations and deaths?
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28-01-2022, 06:25 PM | #18187 | ||
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I was in our local Autobarn store the other day to get some supplies and spend a some of a gift card I got from Christmas.
Four staff members on the floor that day, NONE wearing masks. I took my stuff to the counter and handed over my gift card, the guy had to enter the card number manually, in the process deciding to scratch his lip with the card, wrote the balance on the card and then handed it back to me. If I wasn't in such a hurry to get out of there, I would have given them all an attitude adjustment. Don't want to wear a mask at work? Fine, I don't want to wear one either. But I do for my own and my customers safety. The fact that all staff members were mask-less says more about the attitude of the stores management. Not a good look for a well known national chain store. For the record, I will be reporting this store to head office as well as the relevant authorities. This is half the reason why we are still living with this Virus, selfish idiots who don't give a stuff.
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This was a very interesting read.
https://www.news.com.au/world/corona...8b04a671a0f75b What I understand Associate Professor Raj Puranik, a consultant cardiologist at Royal Prince Alfred Hospital, is saying is that if a person develops a case of myocarditis as an immune response to the mRNA vaccine, this same person in an unvaccinated state could develop a deadly case of myocarditis because of lethal levels of unknown proteins from a covid infection. Quote:
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28-01-2022, 07:26 PM | #18191 | |||
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when he got to the counter he was asked why he wasnt wearing one he promptly replied that he fell in the age group category not to need to wear one then proceeded to as for a pack of cigarettes , and was promptly told by the till operator hes apparently to young to buy them if hes the age to not need a mask and was turned away so he went down to to the bottleo to try his luck last i saw
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28-01-2022, 08:04 PM | #18194 | ||
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I wish they would get rid of these BS mandatory QR check-ins at this point. They already admitted they are not using the data for anything so it is pretty ****ing dumb at this point
I only do it still because technically you could be fined for not doing so and I'd rather do that than pay a fine or fight it out. Path of least resistance |
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28-01-2022, 08:22 PM | #18195 | |||
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Where face masks are required Wearing a mask is required for everyone aged 8 and above in all indoor settings in Victoria (unless an exception applies, such as when in a home, when consuming food or drink, or when receiving beauty services).
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I get the impression that if you had to have an operation you'd be quite happy if none of the operating team were masked up?
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28-01-2022, 09:09 PM | #18198 | ||
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There has been debate about masks lately and effectiveness of cloth masks and recommend N95s.
I have triple layer and could still smell the Lacquer and Thinner at the booze shop today when they were putting in new cabinets. So clearly room to move I still think something is better than nothing but no way am I paying out again for N95. I wear a mask as legally obliged to do so and that is it |
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28-01-2022, 09:24 PM | #18199 | ||
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Four 20 something blokes would unlikely need to be exempt from wearing a mask.
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28-01-2022, 09:41 PM | #18200 | ||
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I have no idea how my post, which simply states what the rules are in the state, indicate any personal choice I've made.
And please don't judge my decisions: you have no idea about my personal circumstances and why I make those decisions. I don't agree with the decisions you've made either, but I don't reply to your posts because I respect your right to make the decisions you feel are right for you. You could at least show me that same respect.
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I would love to see a trial, comparing a) Death, b) hospitalisation, and c) severe non hospital cases (3 or more days in bed?) across these groups
Group 1: all mask, sanitise, dont touch face, shields for retail workers, contact trace - the whole dystopian 9 yards Group 2: only sick people wear masks, and everyone else uses heightened hygiene (Hand wash, don't touch face) (Maybe 2a using sanitiser as well) Group 3: do nothing, live life like you did before Personally I would volunteer to be in Group 2. If I was forced to choose between 1 and 3, I would choose 3 Last edited by EgoFG; 29-01-2022 at 03:16 AM. |
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29-01-2022, 07:45 AM | #18202 | ||
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Nice way to avoid discussing what this was about.
I know it's expecting waaaayy too much, especially on a public forum, but all you had to say was that you apologise and appreciate my point of view. This is my last post 'discussing' this with you as I see that neither of us are going to get what we want out of it.
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29-01-2022, 08:42 AM | #18203 | |||
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29-01-2022, 09:35 AM | #18204 | ||
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Am I the only person here and elsewhere that thinks the threat from Covid-19 has changed our personalities a bit!
I notice some very nice laid back dudes starting to get frazzled about things that would normally just " pass over ya head " and put in the " I don't care basket "........... |
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29-01-2022, 09:36 AM | #18205 | |||
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Wearing a surgical mask or a cloth mask does not protect the wearer, it protects everyone else FROM the wearer. Consider these masks like a catalytic converter or a DPF - they prevent emissions created by the car from getting out into the atmosphere. If you have a cough or are sneezing then you wear those masks to catch the droplets rather than letting them out into the atmosphere for everyone else to breathe in. People wearing those kinds of masks are not aiming to protect themselves, it's the other way around, they're doing a service to protect you from them so what you're doing is criticising someone who was likely sick and had the courtesy to not spread their germs around to others. Have you ever seen an oil filter with gaps out the sides for particles to slip through? No of course you haven't, that'd be useless, the oil would take the path of least resistance and go around the gaps rather than through the filter. You need a specific type of mask rated N95 or more for the mask to flip capabilities and offer protection to the wearer instead. Masks rated N95+ will fit more tightly so that inhaled air is forced through the filtering and nothing gets breathed in unfiltered by the wearer. Consider these masks like engine bay air filters, they stop airborne particles from getting sucked into your engine. They also offer protection to others (exhaled air will be forced through the filtering too) unless they have a valve in them, in which case they will filter what the wearer breathes in but when the wearer exhales the valve will pop open and share it with others. Those people are maskholes. So to summarise and hopefully make it clearer for people....
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I think it's already happening and we just don't get to hear about it, it probably remains under privilege because the results may be too daunting for some folk! |
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29-01-2022, 10:32 AM | #18207 | |||
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As far as I know Victoria has plugged all the loopholes for facemasks and its definitely likely they would exempt from wearing one. Queensland hasn't. It is mandatory to wear masks in indoor public settings, but you don't need one if you if you have a valid reason not to. And then you don't have to provide proof or a medical certificate to substantiate your "exemption". It's one of those catch-22, dog chasing its own tail, not all disabilities can be seen situations... And that's how it's played. |
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NSW records 13,354 cases in the current period and the 10-day average growth rate decreases to 0.9280 from 0.9361) while the actual line remains above the predictive trend line. VIC records 12,250 cases in the current period and the 10-day average growth rate decreases to 0.9562 (from 0.9631) while the actual line remains above the predictive trend. The NT (940) sets a new daily high. Here is the predictive trend graph for three States based on cases since Omicron was identified which, for our purposes, will be taken as December 1st.
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I used to enjoy listening to a mid morning Sydney talkback radio show. Didn't always agree with what they had to say, but I enjoyed the different points of view, discussions and the persons dogged determination in getting answers to questions not many people asked or let slide. One day overnight it became the covid show. 3 hours of covid talk. The place for listeners and the public to report infractions where they would be named and shamed for the rest of the show and reported to the authorities with followup as to the resulting penalty. I haven't listened to that show in at least 6 months, but I understand the host continues to behave the same. P.S. I'm not criticising or trying to insult members in anyways. Your point of view is your point of view. Just commenting in the same vein as slowsnake how things have changed. |
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