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Even if i had the choice, I'm quite happy here. Although I do miss my nephew and niece, they were due to come back July, but all flights cancelled due to outbreak in their transit destination. Speaking of neighbours, our neighbouring countries are being hit with bigger waves than previous. I don't think some people appreciate the risk of an outbreak. Hence why I am supportive of the international border restrictions, and the necessary evil of snap lock downs where there is a local breach. I do however find it interesting that some can support one but not the other. |
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Well there are two sides to international border restrictions... outbound and inbound.
Inbound is the risk. And obviously more outbound leads to more inbound, which is why both are shut. That said, on the outbound.... if its for longer than 3 months, perhaps even longer like 6, and you accept you cant get back in easily, can demonstrate you can support yourself and wont be whining about not being allowed back in, I think that should be ok. |
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excluding Australian cricketers and/ or American movie stars!..lol
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A bit of positive spin on current scenario, there is light at the end of the tunnel. I am hoping we end this lock down sooner than 14 days. If its extended based on current trend and numbers, I'll be first to jump to the "other side".
Inside the war room: Why Victoria is winning the COVID battle https://www.theage.com.au/national/v...05-p57ydb.html Quote:
https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-...03-p57xxw.html Quote:
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Data valid as at 00:00 GMT June 6th, 2021.
Note: As not all Australian States report at the same time, the data below is based on the previous full day reporting. 10 new cases for Australia and no deaths so the CMR is 3.017%. No cases and no deaths for NZ so CMR is 0.969% and active cases 17. The UK had a lower 5,653 cases yesterday and 13 deaths. Just under 18k new cases in the USA yesterday and 126 deaths sees CMR at 1.789%. Other notable points: (weekend reporting) Taiwan (476); and Mongolia (1,393) ... recorded new daily highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day. No countries move above the 90th percentile for their 10 day average and none drop below.
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#11256 | |||
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![]() He should be put in hotel quarantine (preferably in Melbourne), which is his preferred method of quarantine for returning travellers, on his return. What's the chance of that happening? |
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#11258 | ||
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He will be much safer in Melbourne.
![]() VIC is the only state currently undertaking daily nasopharyngeal (RT-PCR) testing of all hotel quarantine workers. Which is the gold standard of COVID testing. ![]() NSW on the other hand, (and only since January '21 mind you) have resorted to only daily rapid saliva testing, with weekly nasopharyngeal tests, and only for some of their quarantine workers. https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/...06-p56s6u.html Saliva PCR testing is not as accurate as the nasopharyngeal PCR test. False negatives are likely. This is not new news. Plenty of research available to back these findings. Why the heck are NSW doing daily rapid saliva testing when there is data to prove it is not that accurate?? https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/cli...e-as-widesprea As for the current Melbourne lockdown continuing until Friday, I'm all for it. Melbourne, being the sporting capital of Australia, has some world class sporting events coming up. The MotoGP at Phillip Island. The F1 GP at Albert Park. And some might even consider the AFL GF a world class event (I don't). We in VIC need to do everything we can to nail this down, and keep it nailed down. Unfortunately though, VIC is currently dealing with two highly infectious virus strains. One that was released by our neighbour to the west, and the other potentially also leaked by our neighbour to the north (still under investigation). We are paying the price for major **** ups by incompetent hotel quarantine systems of other states. While VIC is doing the right thing now after learning the hard way, other states seem to have missed the lessons learnt by VIC and are playing chicken with the virus. Last edited by Tickford.; 06-06-2021 at 03:26 PM. |
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Going off case numbers though, i rekon he would be better off coming back to his home state.
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#11261 | |||
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Although after years of defunding and centralizing the public health system even the best intentions of redemption may fall short. Deputy CHO Allen Cheng says Melbourne’s COVID-19 lockdown remains a ‘day by day proposition’ https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/healt...tion-c-3029416 Extra 100,000 COVID-19 vaccines being sent to Victoria as state battles outbreak https://www.9news.com.au/national/co...1-1f823cfd3bf6 |
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#11262 | ||
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Included in Victoria’s head count for their current outbreak is a nursing home resident who’s apparently received both doses of vaccine. I understand from how the news article portrayed it, they are nonetheless in hospital as a precaution.
There’s no clarity on whether their last dose was too recent for achieving full efficacy or if there were other contributors to their hospitalisation (as opposed simply to isolation in care). But if the statistics are going to start including “fully vaccinated” people, perhaps they deserve a distinct category. |
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#11264 | |||
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It was reported the case today was asymptomatic, hospital as a precaution and is the standard procedure now. So that's a good start. |
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Not sure im understanding your point?
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#11266 | |||
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![]() I do find it funny that some of these loyals are so confident and satisfied with their own state's handling, that they feel they have to inundate this thread with propaganda against other states. ![]() |
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#11268 | ||
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The next person who questions the ethics of a moderator in this thread or any other thread within this forum can have a 7 day holiday.
Also, be careful if you want to PM one of us. The above will apply. Quite frankly, I am sick of it. We donate our time to administer this forum so we all can have somewhere to 'hang out' and share our experiences. We don't expect anything in return and that includes being abused or having our ethics questioned. At the end of the day, us moderators are human and we do the best we can. |
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#11269 | ||
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You don't?? You sure? Who are you referring to when you say "we"?
We as in NSW? No hotel quarantine leaks there? Did you manage to contain it within NSW? Did it spread to VIC? We as in South Australia? No hotel quarantine leaks there? Did you manage to contain it within SA? Did it spread to VIC? To date, 21 quarantine failures have occurred between April 2020 and June 2021 in Australia: 3 in Queensland 8 in New South Wales 2 in South Australia 5 in Victoria 3 in Western Australia NSW winning that one. |
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#11271 | |||
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Join Date: Aug 2005
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By all means the aged and vulnerable should be first in line to get it if they do wish to do so, my grandparents have had their first AZ and I think that was a logical decision when weighing up the pro/cons. But at the presser today a point was made how those in care homes don’t contribute to social immunity due to their isolation from community and that it was the younger people that needed to get the injection, to me this position seems illogical for the initial basis for restriction was to protect the vulnerable. Should we not be throwing all the vaccines at those aged 60 and over, with the intention of cracking back into normality? The recorded infections of the vaccinated have shown that chasing zero cases even once jabbed will not be achievable, so what’s the actual immediate to intermediate aim here? |
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#11272 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Oct 2020
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Meanwhile, in the UK...
Matt Hancock says there are 'plenty of good reasons' to give Covid jabs to children amid reports that jabs for 12 to 15-year-olds will be rolled out in August ahead of the new school year https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ly-August.html |
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#11273 | |||
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#11274 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
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Location: Melbourne
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Lets play follow the leader.
NSW government to lodge proposal for federally-funded quarantine https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-...tine/100193822 Interestingly I read somewhere else that they are proposing for the commonwealth to both fund and operate the facility. The commonwealth gave an emphatic no to operating the Victorian proposal. And I also wonder if the 30,000 wanna returnees will change their minds once vaccine roll out is completed where they are at. That would then impact the ROI on these investments. And I'm curious why New Zealand aren't having these issues as frequently as we do. |
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#11275 | |||
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Hmmm.wonder which state took more Indians?
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#11276 | |||
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To discourage self entitlement obsessive people I recommend a deep Covid test....so deep as to emulate a prostate check, let's see how many essential travellers that discourages?
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#11277 | ||
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I don't know how this virus has the ability to bring out stupidity but it sure does. Everything from denial of airbourne particles from WHO, intial governments responses elsewhere, having to learn lessons the hard way (over and over, no one learning from elsewhere, have to stuff up themselves first), freedums, state rivalry...it's unbelievable.
I feel sorry for Vics, I don't feel the need to attack them due to their bad luck, their gov etc. Relax, maybe support some by buying an otto and spike beanie this winter - melbourne made wool beanie, instead of other imported or china rubbish |
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Victorians voted in their Government and trusted these people to protect, to manage or basically do the right thing! They don't mind the big fat pay check, now earn the bloody thing, that's the man on the streets taxes paying your private education for ya kids! Cheers Billy. Last edited by slowsnake; 07-06-2021 at 08:45 AM. |
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