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I'd love to see them bring the Lightning here. Really has the potential to get some big sales. Although government policy is a set back.
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Lightning is outselling all expectations in the US so that will still be the first market to benefit if they increase production, but hopefully it will come here eventually
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The good thing is they haven't ruled anything out, and they want to get it all up and running with the 2 variants, and then go from there. Eventually the range will fill out with other models once it's all been worked out. |
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but your are correct - the sound means a lot to some. Though personally despite my love of a V8 sound I've never owned one - practicality always gets in the way. and as such I think Ranger will still sell a lot better than these F150s, especially if the price tag is what im Guessing it will be. but there will be enough on our Roads to notice them, well they will be hard to miss
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It's a good decision even if the volumes will be low with the only gotcha being the high cost of the unique to our version parts because of the low volumes but the RAM/Silverado have the same issues.
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I recon that would sell better anyway. Perhaps add a 2 door to mimic the same sizing as the previous Lightings
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If they can get some volume from the EB then well played, I fear its not going to get the same level of love simply because the others are V8...then throw in the Cummins factor for some. The F series has a strong name so its got every chance to do well if they play it smart.
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Ford made this call based on the much larger US market, and they still sell well there. I guess the are not pandering to the complaints on social media "oh no V8 count me out" said by the guy driving a 20 year old XR8
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Drive one!! (Doesn’t smell in the least) The ecoboost is an amazing bit of tech.. This thing totally blew me away… ![]() Also driven most versions of Ram here… Both V8 & Cummins powered diesels.. The Ford is seriously streets ahead Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Good news storey - happy to see and in RHD wins hands down no matter the engine in the big picture.
It will not only pick up new incremental sales but some from the RAM/Silverado buyer for they'll always be RHD conversions, nothing beats a ex factory product.
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And there is nothing stopping them introducing it later anyway. As they have said, they just want to get established and get vehicles out there, then they can worry about other variants later if the demand is there. Just having the 2 variants with the same driveline will significantly reduce complexity during start up. |
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IMO there are people moving away from the LC70 and still old time XR8/SS buyers who will always want to have the top dog. FPV's own fortunes with the Barra vs the 5.4 show that logic doesnt always equate to sales but I guess we will see. I just hope they are not undercutting their own business case.
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Retreating is what GM and Toyota did, as far as it relates to their Australian manufacturing/engineering operations anyway. In hindsight Ford have done well, they successfully pivoted from Falcon to Ranger and are a regular at the top of the monthly sales charts, they've given us bogans the only affordable V8 sports car on the market, they're supporting an Australian remanufacturing operation in addition to retaining a significant engineering base here. Not sure what more people want from this brand. |
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They have kept their Port Melbourne (corporate and R&D) and Altona sites, they spent over $110m developing Altona to a full on R&D centre, with a focus on Hydrogen; they set up centre of excellence there. The have built a test track as well onsite to continue the R&D. They have not closed shop, they are continuing work just like Ford.
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Toyota also have production lines in Australia, not like years past but still a decent operation, their engineering and R&D presence in Australia is significant.
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Anyway, point is that Ford are still neck deep in this market and certainly not backing away. |
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I am not sure about Ford, but within Toyota the R&D centre on Bertie St (soon to be relocated to Altona) is treated with the white gloves. They are the money maker in AU. To bid for jobs within the greater Toyota world the standards (security + technology) they must meet are pretty high. I only worked with Toyota for 3 years but it opened my eyes to the behind the scenes work.
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Holden/ Daewoo / Opel or GM whatever you want to call them - not so active here anymore
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I wouldn’t be surprised if this works out well that they expand the range going forward, V8’s included. |
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There’s no convincing some, the reason Ford made this happen is because enough people yelled loud enough and pointed to Ram sales
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While Ford have left the V8 for now, some might see this as a bad move considering the RAM and GM are V8's, on the other hand it could give them a point of difference. A V6 might appeal to those who don't want a V8 for the real or perceived fuel consumption penalty.
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Let the American Public iron out the kinks with the Lightning.
By the time it gets here in 2-3 years it will have better batteries and motors ect. I wouldn't mind one that looked something like this. ![]()
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Off the highway here, practically all the “roads” are dirt and river rocks..
Drove it up my 5km dirt stretch.. Quite steep and it rode better than my Rhino side by side that has full gas suspension and 12” travel.. Drive our RAV4 daily up and down, and shakes the hell out of you at more than 15-20 kph.. The Rhino I can do 50 comfortably, the Raptor I did 50 effortlessly! Not my vehicle so didn’t push it harder… The torque.. Terrific, but the Fox suspension was the really impressive bit… For such a huge (to me) vehicle.. Incredible! (If we were staying, I’d buy it in a heartbeat.. asking US$68k)
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