HSV VF GTS performance figures.

[XR Martin]

$1000 tyres too

[futura]

Originally Posted by 40RDT

275 Continental ContiSportContact 5P

These must be very good tyres to run mid 10s?

[40RDT]

Originally Posted by futura

These must be very good tyres to run mid 10s?

Yes high performance tyres

[Motorbreath310]

What was wrong with sedans sized like the EA-EL falcon or VN-VS commodore?? too light, they didn't chew up enough petrochemicals and materials including tyres, brake pads, etc, for the global corporate parts manufacturers..... that's what was wrong with them.

This. Cars got bigger out of market-driven necessity. Extra safety, extra features. Surely we're at the point now where we can employ stronger materials and construction techniques, and still fit the gimickry into them?

It's not like people have gotten bigger (US aside) I kinda don't like how big cars are now. Even small cars aren't so small anymore.

Actually, I think it's more the added weight, than the size that bothers me. Some newer cars just don't feel all that special to drive, now.

[zilo]

Originally Posted by FGX310

Evo Magazine have decent drivers:

http://www.evomagazine.com.au/fpv-v-hsv-stripped-bare/

Gen F GTS
0-100km/h in 4.34 seconds
0-400 metres in 12.53 seconds at 190km/h

Dunno why the Holden boys bothered really....all that technology for so little gain.

Everyone knows that a bog standard XR6T can do a 0-100 in 4.6 with a second gear launch...

True....

[MethodX]

Originally Posted by zilo

Dunno why the Holden boys bothered really....all that technology for so little gain.

Everyone knows that a bog standard XR6T can do a 0-100 in 4.6 with a second gear launch...

True....

Instead of gm bashing, enjoy both cars whilst they are still around.
Bash the japs or VW instead.

[LoudPipes]

Originally Posted by zilo

Dunno why the Holden boys bothered really....all that technology for so little gain.

Everyone knows that a bog standard XR6T can do a 0-100 in 4.6 with a second gear launch...

True....

I got the joke and I didn’t know that until very recently and I won’t say I’m dubious because I just don’t know but it amazes me how quick they are and yet most people talk of them as a low 5.

Quick or not I’ve no doubt which I’d pick out of the two and it would be all that tech in the Holden over the XR6T any day.

Seriously I don’t have to be the fastest, someone with a tune or some mods is always just corner and you’re done like a dinner anyway or the Cops grab you and take it away just because you're being stupid enough to try and find out.

[mtbkym01]

Originally Posted by MethodX

Instead of gm bashing, enjoy both cars whilst they are still around.
Bash the japs or VW instead.

It's funny you say this, because I seem to read more FORD bashing on this FORD forum, than I do GM bashing

[Wretched]

Originally Posted by mtbkym01

It's funny you say this, because I seem to read more FORD bashing on this FORD forum, than I do GM bashing

I disagree.
Whilst there is criticism of Ford, it is expected. A forum centered around Ford vehicles with a large owner base, there are people with good and bad experiences, and with the forum they will become vocal. Ford AU and global have made some terrible decisions but also very good ones.

In all people are still fans of the Ford but I think are more open minded to other makes and models. They may not have a Ford in their driveway right now but that doesn't mean they're not a Ford fan.
Personally I am Ford man, I will drive and own other makes but I am still a Ford man. Unlike many here, I am not a Falcon fanatic, it is just another make in the Ford line up. I judge it like any other product.

[mick74GT]

Originally Posted by 40RDT

I highly doubt there is anything under 11 for a tune only GT

Are you talking about Active Automotives GTS in WA? I think it has run a mid 10 with those mods, on stock rubber too. Good number for such minimal mods

Yes that's the one I heard about. Im pretty sure there is footage of that car on youtube. Consistent flat 11s and a few 10s in there.

[rancidpunx]

Originally Posted by XR6 Martin

$1000 tyres too

I have a friend who runs a Dunlop shop and the contis fitted to the HSV are cheaper than the 275/35/19s Dunlops fitted to my Rspec. The tyre issue is Fords just going for the cheap option whereas HSV went out and put the best tyres on so it performed to the best of its ability's.

Originally Posted by 40RDT

I highly doubt there is anything under 11 for a tune only GT

Are you talking about Active Automotives GTS in WA? I think it has run a mid 10 with those mods, on stock rubber too. Good number for such minimal mods

Miamis have run 10s with the same mods. RDPs GS springs to mind. The LSA needs more mods to reach the same peak figures as a Miami but it uses its lower overall output more efficiently building on the overall package delivered by HSV. Stock for stock the Rspec and GTF are just as quick point to point without corners although an Auto GTS with its ducks lined up "can" have the edge down the 1/4. Its all very even in a straight line.

[fgpsi]

Originally Posted by rancidpunx

I have a friend who runs a Dunlop shop and the contis fitted to the HSV are cheaper than the 275/35/19s Dunlops fitted to my Rspec. The tyre issue is Fords just going for the cheap option whereas HSV went out and put the best tyres on so it performed to the best of its ability's.



Miamis have run 10s with the same mods. RDPs GS springs to mind. The LSA needs more mods to reach the same peak figures as a Miami but it uses its lower overall output more efficiently building on the overall package delivered by HSV. Stock for stock the Rspec and GTF are just as quick point to point without corners although an Auto GTS with its ducks lined up "can" have the edge down the 1/4. Its all very even in a straight line.

FGF6 smashes them all

[futura]

Looks like its time to close another VF GTS performance thread.

[40RDT]

Originally Posted by rancidpunx

I have a friend who runs a Dunlop shop and the contis fitted to the HSV are cheaper than the 275/35/19s Dunlops fitted to my Rspec. The tyre issue is Fords just going for the cheap option whereas HSV went out and put the best tyres on so it performed to the best of its ability's.



Miamis have run 10s with the same mods. RDPs GS springs to mind. The LSA needs more mods to reach the same peak figures as a Miami but it uses its lower overall output more efficiently building on the overall package delivered by HSV. Stock for stock the Rspec and GTF are just as quick point to point without corners although an Auto GTS with its ducks lined up "can" have the edge down the 1/4. Its all very even in a straight line.

Big difference between a mid 10 and a high 10 though, especially considering that GTS was running factory fitted street tyres and RDP's GS ran with mickey thompson strip tyres

[Uwish]

The big difference is you won't blow a diff in the GTS.
It will also stop better than any Ford has to offer. Better interior, better suspension, better drive shafts. FFS the list goes on yet you people still don't see that.
It is without doubt the best buit Aussie sedan yet and EVER.

[Rob 351]

Originally Posted by bionic2006xr6t

Hi Guys and Girls,

Was talking to the old man the other day and he was saying how he could not find and performance figures on the current GTS. 0-100km/h and 1/4mile. He had looked on the net and in the buyers guides in most magazines. Does anyone know them and would wish to share?

Thanks in advanced.

Cheers Ryan

Strange thing about this topic is the op asked the question about performance figures on a VF GTS, pretty much like putting petrol on a fire around here, then never comments again on this topic!
Weird!

[zilo]

Originally Posted by Uwish

The big difference is you won't blow a diff in the GTS.
It will also stop better than any Ford has to offer. Better interior, better suspension, better drive shafts. FFS the list goes on yet you people still don't see that.
It is without doubt the best buit Aussie sedan yet and EVER.

I doubt any Holden could be described as the best sedan EVER built.

perhaps you mean the best HOLDEN ever built?

[bionic2006xr6t]

Originally Posted by Rob 351

Strange thing about this topic is the op asked the question about performance figures on a VF GTS, pretty much like putting petrol on a fire around here, then never comments again on this topic!
Weird!

I have been watching! Did I expect it to grow to a 3 page thread in a little over 2 days? No. I was hoping for a couple of links to car reviews that had the figures. The original question contained nothing along the lines of "what do you think would win in a drag race, dyno comp or is the better car exhibit A or exhibit B" I got the answer I was after. That being the figures and relayed them to the not so technical savvy old man that was curious as to what they where. Job done. What the rest of you decided to contribute/discuss in the tread well that's up to you.

Cheers Ryan

[nz13boy]

Originally Posted by zilo

I doubt any Holden could be described as the best sedan EVER built.

perhaps you mean the best HOLDEN ever built?

Actually, he/she said it was the best Aussie sedan ever built. Can you name a better one?

[LoudPipes]

Originally Posted by nz13boy

Actually, he/she said it was the best Aussie sedan ever built. Can you name a better one?

Opinions on which car is best is always so subjective.

I’m prepared to offer up the 1988 Holden JE Camira SL and I hope people don’t feel the need to be negative towards it just because it happens to be a Holden.

Though to be honest all Camira models are equally as good and I couldn’t really split a difference between them.

[Uwish]

Originally Posted by zilo

I doubt any Holden could be described as the best sedan EVER built.

perhaps you mean the best HOLDEN ever built?

Best Australian Built sedan. Period.
Please name a better all round sedan built in Australia. ( production car )

[nz13boy]

Originally Posted by LoudPipes

Opinions on which car is best is always so subjective.

I’m prepared to offer up the 1988 Holden JE Camira SL and I hope people don’t feel the need to be negative towards it just because it happens to be a Holden.

Though to be honest all Camira models are equally as good and I couldn’t really split a difference between them.

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I like the blurred out number plate. Better safe then sorry haha.

[Shonky.]

Originally Posted by duaned

Even with that the case the GTS is still quicker and still the fastest performance car ( in stock form) made in Australia to date!

so how fast has the GTS gone?

I see plenty of 0-100 and 400m, but dont recall it being fastest

Wasn't there a desert run of the GTF that went 297km/hr

Has the Holden bettered that?

[Shonky.]

Originally Posted by FGX310

Evo Magazine have decent drivers:

http://www.evomagazine.com.au/fpv-v-hsv-stripped-bare/

Gen F GTS
0-100km/h in 4.34 seconds
0-400 metres in 12.53 seconds at 190km/h

what happened on this run?

guy must have lifted surely, to get 4.34 for the 0 - 100, but meander over the line at 118mph and 12.5???

[Uwish]

Originally Posted by Shonky.

so how fast has the GTS gone?

I see plenty of 0-100 and 400m, but dont recall it being fastest

Wasn't there a desert run of the GTF that went 297km/hr

Has the Holden bettered that?

Albeit modded to suit top speed runs. I'm sure the GTS could match or better it

[Shonky.]

"I'm sure"

nice data!!!

pretty sure the Ford only had the speed limiter removed, no other mods

happy to be corrected (but not by more of your guesses)

[Shonky.]

yep, just found the thread

Originally Posted by Herrod Motorsport

We used a motec GPS to measure the speed and it did reach 297 KMH
Due to very high intake and cooling temps the engine was actually running In fail safe mode when it achieved this speed . This car is capable of over 300 KMH

[Dave R]

I read that they changed the tailshaft, which is a fair precaution.

[Wretched]

Originally Posted by Shonky.

"I'm sure"

nice data!!!

pretty sure the Ford only had the speed limiter removed, no other mods

happy to be corrected (but not by more of your guesses)

And an upgraded tail shaft

[HULK_I6T]

A miami v8 is a nice bit of gear.. 5.0 secs 0-100km/h is nothing to sneeze at. It can match the LSA and i6t from 4500rpm upwards..

But 95% of driving is done under 4500rpm. This is where the big cube LSA and i6t tear away from the miami v8.

The vf GTS is an awesome car, a genuine alternative to an amg e63 or bmw m5. I dont think the fpv cars can lay claim to being such an alternative.