Very Cheap Ebgt On Ebay - Page 3

Murph-51 · 27-06-2012, 10:46 PM

lol James

EF ECTIV · 27-06-2012, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

EL GT IMO is still one of the best interiors Ford has ever done. All that leather, woodgrain and alcantara was superb.

agreed; especially now that Ive got that same interior in my turbo

tranquilized · 28-06-2012, 07:15 PM

auction ended with no bids! Is this all these cars are worth now? Last time I looked people were asking $40k for a good example.

Murph-51 · 28-06-2012, 08:54 PM

if it hasn't been bidded on, then it's probably not even worth that!
Nah seriously, there's just no coin out there, people are nervous to part with any coin it seems! Thats what it's all really about

Buntz · 29-06-2012, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by fte50

Dont wanna hijack the thread, but is it really cheap when compared to say this
http://www.carsales.com.au/private/d...api=2&__N=1246 1247 1252 1282 4294966463 4294960332 1216&silo=Stock&Range=Price:Min,Max~0.5&sort=defau lt

call me biast, but this is more of a gt than an eb will ever be.

droool

riogt · 01-07-2012, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by FTE

Yes but didnt the EL GT actually HAVE 200kw unlike the fudged figures of the EB GT..... Id still have an EB GT over the EL though regardless of power

I remember not long after they came out there was alot of talk that they were underpowered, they were not that much quicker than a standard EB XR8 from memory, what I dont get though is the EB and EL GT engines are identical, same heads, manifold, T/Body MAF and injectors, how can everyone be happy with the claimed 200kw from the EL but not the EB?

FTE · 01-07-2012, 08:00 AM

Different cam maybe?

riogt · 01-07-2012, 08:04 AM

Both had stock 5.0 Cams ..... ?

nstg8a · 01-07-2012, 08:45 AM

They're nit the GT to buy if your after outright power, even though they would flog most early ones without raising a sweat.
I think the economy is playing a big part in current selling prices. There just isn't the money around like there used to be."

nstg8a · 01-07-2012, 08:45 AM

Double post

FTE · 01-07-2012, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by nstg8a

They're nit the GT to buy if your after outright power"

That's true but not really talking about being a performance car, just comparing both EB And EL GT claimed power output.
Seems the EB wasn't acceptable as the claimed power was below 200kw yet the EL is acceptable but Riogt pointed out the engines are identical including cam. Interesting. Does anyone know how Tickford got the power or did they just round it up to the nearest 200kw rating?
I always wanted an EB GT but the more I look at EL GT's I think I want one of those instead

EF ECTIV · 01-07-2012, 07:48 PM

Tickford were able to put alot more time, testing and effort into the EL
GT... from the suspension, tyres, right upto the gearbox and motor..

Bossxr8 · 01-07-2012, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by riogt

I remember not long after they came out there was alot of talk that they were underpowered, they were not that much quicker than a standard EB XR8 from memory, what I dont get though is the EB and EL GT engines are identical, same heads, manifold, T/Body MAF and injectors, how can everyone be happy with the claimed 200kw from the EL but not the EB?

Tickford put a lot more effort into the EL.

A lot of it could be down to the ECU tune, maybe the EB was throttled a bit.

The EL GT must have been a more powerful unit than what was in EB because they were even able to tune it to make a flat torque curve, rather than tune it for all out power.

And are you sure the cam was the same?

Nikked · 01-07-2012, 09:34 PM

By the time the EL came out, Tickford had the funds and ford had the trust in them to go wilder.

Thank god they did!

The EL GT, T3, and current 5.0 GT's are all great examples of engineering excellence since the re-intruduction of the V8.

FTE · 01-07-2012, 09:42 PM

EB and EL are meant to have the same power. ED sprint is close so Tickford didn't exactly go wild until T3. And even then it was only where it should be so not exactly wild either.
I remember when the EB GT came out I was in year 12 at school. I read everything about them in hope I'd buy one 1 day. Well I ended up buying the VP GTS instead. Great car, great power delivery but still would like a GT one day

XR Martin · 01-07-2012, 11:10 PM

I think what let the EB GT down was the exhaust, it had the same nasty crushed headers as the base model.
And remember it still had a 3.27 diff

900dukess · 02-07-2012, 09:35 PM

Ok, I talked to the owner, seemed genuine. Then I had the EB GT inspected by a independent third party, there was a couple of minor issues but all seemed good. Negotiated price with owner who the removed from EBay as I agreed to purchase car, seeing I was from interstate I was buying sight unseen. Owner needed quick cash so I was arranging a secure transfer and freight, then owner rings me up and says car is no longer for sale. Anyway cost me a few dollars for inspections etc, waiting for owner to reimburse me as he said he would. Not exactly happy about owner not completing deal, but hey didn't have a contract on car, offered a deposit to owner who said didn't need to do that ad we had a agreement. A little cranky as I was mucked around a bit, but he did say his reason for sale had changed so didn't need to sell. I wonder what would have happened if I just bid on car and won auction?

Hayden1 · 02-07-2012, 11:54 PM

Is this another cheap one or the same one?

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Ford-Falc...#ht_500wt_1413

**MR_LON** · 03-07-2012, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Hayden1

Is this another cheap one or the same one?

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Ford-Falc...#ht_500wt_1413

it's a different 1, it has been regularly on ebay for some time now. from memory it started in the mid 20's first time it was on.

tranquilized · 03-07-2012, 09:30 AM

We dont know how much the owner of the Cardinal Red GT wants for it, cause at $16,800 and 10 bids the reserve still hasn't been met.

The black one in the OP was at $16,800 with no reserve, but when it came to the crunch, he didn't sell it did he...

ebgtjames · 03-07-2012, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by tranquilized

The black one in the OP was at $16,800 with no reserve, but when it came to the crunch, he didn't sell it did he...

The above car was sold (not on eBay) for 15k!

RAPID_BA · 04-07-2012, 08:25 AM

Hasnt anyone picked up that you can almost get a b series GT for $20k??

290kw vs a claimed 200kw (eb was critiqued in its day for not making the advertised power)

It leaves the eb gt into the mid teens at best in value.

I like them but maybe thats all they are worth? $15k ish

ebgtjames · 04-07-2012, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by HULK_BA

Hasnt anyone picked up that you can almost get a b series GT for $20k??

290kw vs a claimed 200kw (eb was critiqued in its day for not making the advertised power)

It leaves the eb gt into the mid teens at best in value.

I like them but maybe thats all they are worth? $15k ish

IMO the b series GT is the worst looking GT Ford ever made

Give it a few more years and you'll pick one up for 10k!

tranquilized · 04-07-2012, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by HULK_BA

Hasnt anyone picked up that you can almost get a b series GT for $20k??

290kw vs a claimed 200kw (eb was critiqued in its day for not making the advertised power)

It leaves the eb gt into the mid teens at best in value.

I like them but maybe thats all they are worth? $15k ish

BA GT values have no relevance to the EB

KW numbers definitely have no relevance to any cars value

One is a numbered limited release, and one is just a regular model built without restriction over about 5 years (BA - BF) and is still going with the FG.

Aint hard to work out which is more collectable, regardless of current values, KW figures, which one you think looks better, or which one you'd prefer to drive.

Scooter · 04-07-2012, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by HULK_BA

Hasnt anyone picked up that you can almost get a b series GT for $20k??

290kw vs a claimed 200kw (eb was critiqued in its day for not making the advertised power)

It leaves the eb gt into the mid teens at best in value.

I like them but maybe thats all they are worth? $15k ish

I am certain that everything you type is just to start arguments?
What you are saying, is the more kw's, the more expensive the car?
I guess a Bathurst Cobra must only be worth as much as an EB GT too then?
The EB GT was a low volume production, not produced for everyone who wanted one like the new ones, hence why the B series onwards build no's have a million zeros in front of them?

RAPID_BA · 04-07-2012, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by tranquilized

BA GT values have no relevance to the EB

KW numbers definitely have no relevance to any cars value

One is a numbered limited release, and one is just a regular model built without restriction over about 5 years (BA - BF) and is still going with the FG.

Aint hard to work out which is more collectable, regardless of current values, KW figures, which one you think looks better, or which one you'd prefer to drive.

OKAAAAY.....

Go buy one then. You cant say that a GT buyer wont compare the two and evaluate? Ill buy a B series GT for similar money and we will both be happy.

Scooter · 04-07-2012, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by HULK_BA

OKAAAAY.....

Go buy one then. You cant say that a GT buyer wont compare the two and evaluate? Ill buy a B series GT for similar money and we will both be happy.

Well you may say I am biased, but I already own one anyway. And all the guys at work who have or have had BA BF and FG Falcons, all have nothing but problems with there cars. I admit there cars are all XR6 and XR8's, but it is enought to put me off these models. But you are correct in saying that a GT buyer may compare and evaluate, but when I bought my EB, I did not even think B series. I wanted an EB GT or Sprint. And considering that 2003 GT's are about the same price as 1993 GT's, I think that says something right there?

tranquilized · 04-07-2012, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by HULK_BA

OKAAAAY.....

Go buy one then. You cant say that a GT buyer wont compare the two and evaluate? Ill buy a B series GT for similar money and we will both be happy.

The GT buyer!!

Right so every model GT Falcon - XR through to XB, EB, EL, BA - FG, would all be considered equally by a "GT buyer" would they? You dont think some of the models might be a little more collectable than others? Let me guess, the one with the most KW's should be considered the best?

Pure genius mate, keep up the good work.

Bossxr8 · 04-07-2012, 05:27 PM

Was it 250 EB GT's made, Vs how many thousand BA/F GT's.

Rareness is definately a factor in terms of value and collectability. Part of the reason why the PhIII is worth so much, only 300 were built and probably only half of them still exist.

nstg8a · 04-07-2012, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Was it 250 EB GT's made, Vs how many thousand BA/F GT's.

Rareness is definately a factor in terms of value and collectability. Part of the reason why the PhIII is worth so much, only 300 were built and probably only half of them still exist.

isnt the old story "only 300 were built and approx 700 survive today"

if you go by the amount of people whos uncle brothers mates dogs cousins owned a phase 3, and sold in the 80s for stuff all, there must have been thousands of the things.