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I can't see it it being a market leader in refinement, no, but i would still love to grab an XR8 if the price is right
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Where the hell did I say it wasn't very good? I have not decided anything yet. When I read a post from a guy who works on the floor saying "you get out what you put in, which Ford are showing will be zero" that doesn't fill me with confidence in dropping $40 - $50K on a new car especially if it might be a lemon. |
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It doesn't matter what I think, all that matters is what the general buying public and the workers at the respective manufacturers think. As it stands today Ford are building 500 units a month, Holden are producing 4000 units. The production line at Ford is barely moving, At Holden they are getting overtime. Wether Holden went about it right or not is irrelevant, what they have done is support their product and workforce and that is irrefutable. I ask of you, how would waiting 48hrs have caused the Ford workforce any further hardship? waiting 48hrs to make an announcement when you plan on giving 1000 days notice is hardly going to make a difference in the long run. It would be no different to announcing shutdown on the September 29th 2016 as opposed to the 1st of October 2016. Lets hear from the members who work at Ford, what would they prefer, badge allegiance aside. Would they prefer to work for an employer that has rolled over and died, or one that is still pumping out enough units to keep its entire current workforce in work. Stop looking at it through rose coloured glasses, its no longer about badges, its about which employer is standing by its Aussie workforce and the answer to that is undeniably evident. The only thing Ford have done is appeared to care, when in fact, despite the 3 year plan, they will quite likely fold well before the opposition. Talk is cheap, proof is in the pudding. |
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Ford are building more then 500 cars a month. Its more like 1800.
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The Commodore component still smashes the Falcon 5 to 1. Look, don't get the wrong idea, I am a enthusiast who leans heavily towards the blue team, but im also a realist and view the business decision/tactics surrounding this situation and I can tell you, Holden may be morally wrong, but ask their employees, and I do weekly, and they are very upbeat about what has happened. On the other hand we have members here who work for Ford and were very upbeat upon the initial decision and have since, clearly lost confidence by the tone of some recent posts, if my interpretation is correct. What has happened at Holden is relevant to me as they are in my backyard and I socialise with past and present staff and management at plant level. When you know your job is gone and there's nothing you can do about it, survival kicks in and you milk it for all its worth. |
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Just that Ford will do next to nothing to promote actually selling the thing. |
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There is no "good way" and I personally feel when you have no positive news to give it's better to set out the facts asap and be totally honest. Just to continue the reasonable discussion, maybe I could ask you: If you are a Ford worker and found out that Ford Aust held over their closure announcement for a week, or a month even, so Holden could have clear air for their VF launch how would you feel?...I'd be bloody angry. Last edited by Dr Smith; 12-03-2014 at 07:50 PM. |
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Personally I couldn't care less, if my jobs gone my jobs gone, nothing I can do about it. As for finding out a month later, at least its 30 less sleepless nights to overcome. |
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You're lucky you feel that way, some will feel even more stress knowing their job is gone, some will feel relief that the speculation ends. One thing is certain, car manufacturing won't ever come back, sadly. And I'm trying to see how I can get away with buying the next G6ET.
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Tonight on 11, Burn Notice & Sons of Anarchy, there was 7 Holden ads !! 7 !! Cruze, SUV Family and Colorado...Ford nil, nada, not a one.!!!! So sad !!
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In Melb. I've heard radio ads for Ford on upto 3 sations, am & fm for over 3 months constantly and regularly. Should say I watched S of A and didn't notice one ad, switched off instantly until the show returned, lol,
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Vic tv must have different ads to QLD ???
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Sorry, I meant whatever ads did play I honestly cannot say I remember what was shown, could have been Holden or flights on a rocket ship....just didn't register. Plus I'm still recovering from the prison scene, first time I've watched S 0f A. .
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The Territory ad is getting heaps of airtime in NZ currently, shame it is so annoying, they should have just redone the original one.
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I don't think that any of the cars I ever bought were advertised on TV . Does tv advertising work ? For me - no but I accept it might work for some categories of cars and population .
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I have been seeing a fair amount of Ecosport advertising in QLD.
Ford is still advertising, just not Falcon. This is no suprise considering they are transitioning to importer only status.
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With the advent of PVR's, more and more people don't even watch TV adds anyway.
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SOA brilliant !! waaay better than any reality crap show...the dvd's and watch from season 1. The series in Ireland is great!!!
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Seeing as a full month will see 500 utes and sedans don't see it happening.
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