What would you consider is high performance? - Page 2

The MaDDeSTMaN · 24-08-2005, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Falcon Coupe

Exactly, 150kw is much more fun on an Escort than a falcon.
I went with 150 per tonne.

MMmmmm 150kw Escort, that would be fun!

I didn't vote, because to me there is much more to a high performance car then a power to weight ratio, it's just one thing of many, but doesn't realy tell you much about how it drives, for example an engine might make 250kw and be in a sub 900kg car, however if that engine doesn't make usable power under 5000rpm, it's power to weight would be good, but it wouldn't be one that would be any good to drive anywhere other then a race track...

4Vman · 24-08-2005, 10:12 AM

Mid Corner speed is all that matters!!!

Casper · 24-08-2005, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by 4Vman

Mid Corner speed is all that matters!!!

Well that throws ever FPV product out of the game.

4Vman · 24-08-2005, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Casper

Well that throws ever FPV product out of the game.

It throws every Falcon since the Phase 3 out of the game!!!!

The MaDDeSTMaN · 24-08-2005, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by 4Vman

It throws every Falcon since the Phase 3 out of the game!!!!

Hehehe, maybe, but means that even a stock 2L Mk II Escort now stands a chance, hahaha

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4Vman · 24-08-2005, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by The MaDDeSTMaN

Hehehe, maybe, but means that even a stock 2L Mk II Escort now stands a chance, hahaha

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The solution is here:

FPV Go-Kart(tm) Im taking orders as we speak! :nutsycuck

RED_EL_XR8 · 24-08-2005, 10:43 AM

Anything you cannot legally drive in NSW on P-Plates. LOL

4Vman · 24-08-2005, 10:45 AM

To some people anything that has a larger exhaust outlet than its piston size and more plastic on it than a tuppaware convention!!!!!

NAK302 · 24-08-2005, 11:55 AM

damn. the second goddam poll this month where i fell into a majority. now i'm gunna have to re-assess my way of thinking, again

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Citric GT · 24-08-2005, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 4Vman

To some people anything that has a larger exhaust outlet than its piston size and more plastic on it than a tuppaware convention!!!!!

Bugger...that means all the little buzboxes at Krispy Kremes are more of a performance car than either of my XRs...lol

Citric GT · 24-08-2005, 03:56 PM

I reckon anything with more than about 150KW/Tonne OR quicker than 14 down the quarter is getting up amongst the high performance cars.

Basically that would be T3 and BA GT/GTP so far. This is for TODAYS standards only.

24-08-2005, 04:00 PM

anything faster than my car is high perfromance

The Mighty Red · 24-08-2005, 04:01 PM

I guess 170-190kw per ton, but an XR6T with APS Stage ll whatever kw per ton that comes too, thats what I vote for.

FPVWEPN · 24-08-2005, 05:24 PM

anything that cuts the 1/4mile 13sec and under is fast

Ryan · 24-08-2005, 05:34 PM

114Kw from my ultra sik VL N/A bro. lol

Actually I dont know what I would consider "High Performance" as I have never driven a car more powerful then my VL.

But for a rough guess I would say 180Kw+Per ton.

jabba · 24-08-2005, 05:57 PM

I voted 210kw + ton. I know I will get blasted for this, But I will say anyway. The BA XR8 come in at 137kw+ ton and the GT come in at 153+ ton. Now they are suppose to be performance cars. In my opinion the XR8 is not and the GT just makes it as a performance car, But it is certainly not high performance car. To me what make a HI PO car is it ability to accelerate, brake and handle. which the GT/GTP is good at all three but it is not mind blowing on the acceleration and the Handling package needs alot of work... In regards to the XR8, It has poor throttle response down low, the suspension is soft and the brakes, well there the same as the XT. Utter crap. I guess that is why I have modded my car so much to a point that I am now happy with the brakes and suspension. But not so happy with the motor, but that will be sorted very soon.

4Vman · 24-08-2005, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by FPVWEPN

anything that cuts the 1/4mile 13sec and under is fast

That means the BA XR8 and GT are FAST!

Ryan · 24-08-2005, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 4Vman

That means the BA XR8 and GT are FAST!

Doesnt the BA XR8 run a mid 14 though?

jabba · 24-08-2005, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 4Vman

That means the BA XR8 and GT are FAST!

After they have been modded, yes. Out of the showroom, no.

4Vman · 24-08-2005, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jabba

After they have been modded, yes. Out of the showroom, no.

Both do 13 sec 1/4 off the showroom floor.
BAGT 13.8
XR8 13.9

jabba · 24-08-2005, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 4Vman

Both do 13 sec 1/4 off the showroom floor.
BAGT 13.8
XR8 13.9

Thats not fast for a hi performance car. The GTR 32 Skyline did the 1/4 in 12.9. And that was 15 years ago.

4Vman · 24-08-2005, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jabba

Thats not fast for a hi performance car. The GTR 32 Skyline did the 1/4 in 12.9. And that was 15 years ago.

that wasn't what you said though, you said they couldn't do a 13 of the showroom floor, but they can and do! :the_finge

xr8ute · 24-08-2005, 06:38 PM

Hmmm...a high power to weight ratio certainly = FUN, but would only be one of the criterea necessary for what I consider High Performance.

A Shelby Cobra Daytona coupe would be about there IMO...whats the power to weight of that?

24-08-2005, 06:38 PM

I consider high performance to be a perfect match between cornering, braking and acceleration. My workmates Ferrari 360 Spider definately fits this, I'd also considering a WRX to fit this. Same with an S2000, Lotus Elise, Monaro, Skyline (GTR..obviuosly), RZ TT Supra and Pulsar GTI-R's.

jabba · 24-08-2005, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 4Vman

that wasn't what you said though, you said they couldn't do a 13 of the showroom floor, but they can and do! :the_finge

Arrr nope. I never mentioned times at all, untill I mention the Nissan GTR.
But in my opinion 13sec is nothing great for a preformance car. when they get them into the 12's then we'll be talking Hi performance

Steffo · 24-08-2005, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by xr8ute

Hmmm...a high power to weight ratio certainly = FUN, but would only be one of the criterea necessary for what I consider High Performance.

A Shelby Cobra Daytona coupe would be about there IMO...whats the power to weight of that?

http://www.fast-autos.net/shelby/shelbydaytona.html

380hp (284kW) and 2300lbs (1045kg). That's 271.77kW/tonne.

xr8ute · 24-08-2005, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Steffo

http://www.fast-autos.net/shelby/shelbydaytona.html

380hp (284kW) and 2300lbs (1045kg). That's 271.77kW/tonne.

Bloody hell, that puts things into perspective...thanks Steffo

**xr8ute votes for the 250kW/tonne option

Walkinshaw · 25-08-2005, 01:31 AM

See i view F6's/GT's/GTS's which cut mid 13's as Performance vehicles, however they are not high performance. This tag is reserved for vehicles like Saleen S7, Merc SLR etc etc

Des · 25-08-2005, 08:26 AM

I voted 210+, but after more of a think, would now change that to 190+.
130/150+ = Performance
190+ = High Performance
230+ = Supercar

b2tf · 26-08-2005, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Walkinshaw

See i view F6's/GT's/GTS's which cut mid 13's as Performance vehicles, however they are not high performance. This tag is reserved for vehicles like Saleen S7, Merc SLR etc etc

Agreed.

View Poll Results: what is a high performance car??
80kW + per ton	4	2.23%
130kW + per ton	26	14.53%
150kW + per ton	48	26.82%
170kW + per ton	27	15.08%
190kW + per ton	13	7.26%
210kW + per ton	19	10.61%
230kW + per ton	5	2.79%
250kW + per ton	37	20.67%
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