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Old 10-02-2022, 04:08 PM   #31
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Just goes to show how statistics can tell any story you want.

One way to interpret that is that Canberra drivers are the safest in the world!
Considering there is a population of 500 000 there and probably 480 000 leave every Friday night.
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6.9km per minute
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I have always loved driving fast and raced a lot but that speed is too much for the open road, regardless of how good the road is.

To put it into perspective the record top speed in Formula One is 372.5km/h
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Old 10-02-2022, 04:16 PM   #33
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Surely Trev can't be more than 2 posts away from mentioning he used to teach people to drive trucks and worked in health and safety
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I'm showing my age, but just after I got off my p-plates in 1978, NSW applied the blanket 100km/h country speed limits and got rid of the unrestricted speed zones. You could still be booked back then if you weren't driving according to the conditions.

In 2022 all Transport NSW is interested in doing is reducing speed limits every where and introducing unmarked speed cameras. Just look at the number of 30 & 40 km/h zones being imposed and the number of roads that where 100 & 80km/h being dropped to lower limits.

I have had chats with people in Transport NSW and if you mention the poor standard of driving education, they look at you blankly, and say so what if people can't drive - just lower the speed limits and more cameras.

enough of the rant..
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ahhh OK, so the driver was German and no other Nationalities else can drive on it - I get it now

Now, what was the Nationality of the driver again? and he obtained a German licence to drive the Autobahn
I quoted the bit where you said what if someone pulled into that lane going considerably slower. The whole point I was making was they train german drivers to be 100% aware of what could be approaching in the fast lane at a significantly greater speed, so the nationality of the bugatti driver is irrelevant. He is not the person I was referring to.

Yeah of course the driver in the other lane could be from another nation, but small chance.

Nice try though

German drivers have excellent awareness on autobahns and get out of the way of fast movers, unlike here where a lot of morons think it's their god given right to hog the right lane going considerably slower than anybody else, and stuff anyone who wants to go the speed limit.
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Surely Trev can't be more than 2 posts away from mentioning he used to teach people to drive trucks and worked in health and safety

you neglected to add + his mates from the Red Coats.
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Surely Trev can't be more than 2 posts away from mentioning he used to teach people to drive trucks and worked in health and safety
you must feel really chuffed with yourself for mentioning that - well done big fella
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So I post some facts and the residents sooks start sooking - unreal
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I'm showing my age, but just after I got off my p-plates in 1978, NSW applied the blanket 100km/h country speed limits and got rid of the unrestricted speed zones. You could still be booked back then if you weren't driving according to the conditions.

In 2022 all Transport NSW is interested in doing is reducing speed limits every where and introducing unmarked speed cameras. Just look at the number of 30 & 40 km/h zones being imposed and the number of roads that where 100 & 80km/h being dropped to lower limits.

I have had chats with people in Transport NSW and if you mention the poor standard of driving education, they look at you blankly, and say so what if people can't drive - just lower the speed limits and more cameras.

enough of the rant..
you are posting on the wrong forum mate, all these young blokes all know much more than us and don't mind telling us how **** we are
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German drivers have excellent awareness on autobahns and get out of the way of fast movers, unlike here where a lot of morons think it's their god given right to hog the right lane going considerably slower than anybody else, and stuff anyone who wants to go the speed limit.
nice change of tact
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417kmh is approx

6.9km per minute
116m per sec.
I have always loved driving fast and raced a lot but that speed is too much for the open road, regardless of how good the road is.
Yep, by the time you realise you stuffed up at that speed, you'd already be dead.
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This mentality, our cars keep getting better and safer, Cars now get mad at you if they think your going out of lane etc.

Yet they keep dropping speed limits on rural Roads.. because some Halfwit read a study that lowering the limit will reduce fatalities

Once upon a time someone with a lamp had to walk in front of a motor vehicle for safety purposes - perhaps history is going to repeat itself ?


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As a Kraut myself, I know very well how much better most European nations handle driver instruction but that's largely irrelevant here. All the skill in the world won't help this bloke if an obstacle appears in his path. The car may have incredible technological aids to assist the driver but that won't help much either if he runs over an oil slick and loses traction. At that speed, you would have no chance of reacting.
Oh yeah im not denying that at all.
Guess that theres just a tiny bit less of a chance of something going wrong in those conditions than here for instance.
But yeah if it did go wrong then you'd be dead before you could even react to the situation.

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So I post some facts and the residents sooks start sooking - unreal
Which fact did i miss it?
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Once upon a time someone with a lamp had to walk in front of a motor vehicle for safety purposes - perhaps history is going to repeat itself ?
As long as we don't go back to when steam traction engines were forced to come to a complete halt, produce no noise and emit no steam any time a horse approached.

I know most of us don't drive our traction engines around as often as we'd like to (despite the cheap cost of coal) but if we go back to those days, I'm buying a horse. Or a zebra, if possible.
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You can't even ride an e-scooter faster than 10km/h here, and there's been crackdowns on little kids with them.

There'll be someone chiming in about how dangerous 10km/h is on e-scooters soon and how irresponsible little children are.
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Here in SA, electric scooters are considered a motor vehicle, require a driver's licence etc and you'll get done for driving offences if you even try using them in public.

...unless they're one of the e-scooters that SA is "trialling" in the CBD of Adelaide. i.e the only e-scooters you can ride here are the ones owned by big business and they're ridiculously expensive to ride around. There is a $1.00 unlock fee at the start of your ride, and then it costs $0.45 for every minute that you ride.

I wish I was making this up.
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Here in SA, electric scooters are considered a motor vehicle, require a driver's licence etc and you'll get done for driving offences if you even try using them in public.

...unless they're one of the e-scooters that SA is "trialling" in the CBD of Adelaide. i.e the only e-scooters you can ride here are the ones owned by big business and they're ridiculously expensive to ride around. There is a $1.00 unlock fee at the start of your ride, and then it costs $0.45 for every minute that you ride.

I wish I was making this up.
Its the same as us, we've just had them introduced again after Melburnians decided to dump all those 'O-bike' things in the Yarra River.

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I could only get the one I rented up to 14km/h, that was all she had to give!

It's horrible value for money. I did the math and worked out it would've been a lot cheaper to travel the same distance via taxi.
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nice change of tact
Not my fault you insinuated something i wasn’t referring to. You referred to someone pulling out on the driver, i referred to them being well trained to be aware of keeping out of the fast lane unless clear to do so.

Keep yelling at clouds though.
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you are posting on the wrong forum mate, all these young blokes all know much more than us and don't mind telling us how **** we are
lol, pretty sure you'll find we all agree with MFL that improving driver standards would have more impact than lowering speed limits.

We don't disagree with every old dude just because they are old, and we're generally tolerant of people we disagree with - just take exception to those that preach in a condescending manner and lose their **** when anyone dare question their infinite wisdom (FonzieCan'tSayWrong.gif).
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There is no speed limit for that section of road. He did not hit anything or damage anything or hurt anyone or run anyone off the road. He did not commit any offence
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of course they do - have a look at what they have in place for emergency response - if they all drive so well, why do they need this?

On the autobahn the average speed is about 150.
Enthusiasts in high performance cars do a lot more than that.

Yet they still have a lower road death toll than us. How does that work since our authorities are sure that fining people for doing 3km/h over the limit is saving the world.
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I remember bombing along the Autobahn in 2019 in my RH drive Getz that I purchased in Scotland, I was doing 100 MPH and most of the cars were passing me like I was standing still, I never overtook 1 car and never came up behind anyone the whole trip, nothing like our crap Freeways that's for sure.

I only wished I was doing it in a Bugatti, the wife would still prefer the Getz
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Not my fault you insinuated something i wasn’t referring to. You referred to someone pulling out on the driver, i referred to them being well trained to be aware of keeping out of the fast lane unless clear to do so.

Keep yelling at clouds though.
and I pointed out, quite clearly, albeit sarcastically that the road is open to anyone from around the world, with NO German training, in fact the driver of the Bugati is from Czechoslovakia, did he get his licence in Germany? or are you now going to tell me how hard it is get a licence in Czechoslovakia? What about the person who might inadvertently move into that lane being from a country where they drive on the left? Oh, that would never happen would it, or do they need a German licence to drive on the road too?

No need to yell at clouds, facts will beat that all the time, but your small-mindedness thinks its great to throw insults as a way of proving your point, but it just shows your level of intelligence or lack of it - you can't handle rational debate with facts and logic

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There is no speed limit for that section of road. He did not hit anything or damage anything or hurt anyone or run anyone off the road. He did not commit any offence
then why are the police looking at charging him if he didn't commit an offence, maybe you should read the article
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On the autobahn the average speed is about 150.
Enthusiasts in high performance cars do a lot more than that.

Yet they still have a lower road death toll than us. How does that work since our authorities are sure that fining people for doing 3km/h over the limit is saving the world.
I have never disputed that our licencing is ****, in fact I agree with you on that point

But...........serious accidents happen on that road all the time and to deny that would be foolish, you can try but you would lying
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I have never disputed that our licencing is ****, in fact I agree with you on that point

But...........serious accidents happen on that road all the time and to deny that would be foolish, you can try but you would lying
Everyone talks about Adolf Hitler and WWII, but never his autobahn

I'm never going to forgive him for creating VW.
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417kmh is approx

6.9km per minute
116m per sec.
I have always loved driving fast and raced a lot but that speed is too much for the open road, regardless of how good the road is.
Your senses need to be at the horizon, almost predicting what will happen.

With the kind of money he has, I wonder why he didn't try and rent Nardo Ring.
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Everyone talks about Adolf Hitler and WWII, but never his autobahn

I'm never going to forgive him for creating VW.
Ha ha Hitler's revenge.
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