How much damage do you think ? - Page 2

snopony · 24-04-2015, 08:08 PM

I quite often wonder when there are severe flooding events about all the undiscovered barn finds out there.....or the classics.....gonski.

usernametaken · 24-04-2015, 08:09 PM

You don't get caught in flash flooding if you are paying attention to the conditions, (especially on a route you take every day).

Simple.

**GasoLane** · 24-04-2015, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by usernametaken

You don't get caught in flash flooding if you are paying attention to the conditions, (especially on a route you take every day).

Simple.

I'm guessing that you've been these (flood) situations before then ?

Ford17 · 24-04-2015, 08:52 PM

Hopefully all have noticed the recent weather conditions where the OP hails from.
At least one entire home was washed away in the Hunter Valley region.
Not just houses and cars affected though, but people have died, and animals have perished as well.
Let's hope insurance companies come good and honour their agreements.

**PG2** · 24-04-2015, 10:14 PM

I probably can comment - I live in the area and experienced this storm first hand.

That picture the OP put up is AFTER she got out of the car. Knowing how the storm was I can safely assume that the water was not that deep when she drove into to it. The water rose that quickly it was unbelievable. No, I have never lost a car in a flood.

She says that the water level in the picture was only like that for about an hour.

Back to her question though - as everyone has said don't even entertain the thought of getting the car back even the insurance company offers to fix it for you.

usernametaken · 24-04-2015, 10:20 PM

mate, she had to get out of the window - it was way too high to drive into if that was the case.

**PG2** · 24-04-2015, 10:35 PM

How long was she in the car for before she got out? The car didn't stop and she immediately got out - she said that someone had to come and help her.

Some of these streets flooded in 10 minutes. The area got 400mm of rain. Some streets are still full of water. One developed suburb is still cut off and they sending supplies to them by boat.

usernametaken · 24-04-2015, 11:45 PM

I work in emergency services.

**GasoLane** · 24-04-2015, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by usernametaken

I work in emergency services.

Not exactly answering the question though

usernametaken · 24-04-2015, 11:58 PM

Perhaps if you added a preposition to you original question?

And i dont really owe you any sort of justification for my comments.

This whole forum is built on 'opinions'

Look at the whole Ford vs. Holden argument for example...

Regardless, common sense dictates you don't drive into rising flood waters.

My 'opinion' is based on years of operational work in emergency services.

What's your 'opinion' based on questioning it?
:-)

**GasoLane** · 25-04-2015, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by usernametaken

And i dont really owe you any sort of justification for my comments.

This whole forum is built on 'opinions'

Look at the whole Ford vs. Holden argument for example...

Regardless, common sense dictates you don't drive into rising flood waters.

My 'opinion' is based on years of operational work in emergency services.

What's your 'opinion' based on questioning it?
:-)

Of course you don't owe me anything, but as far as any of us know you could be a 15yo schoolkid.

Which division of Emergency services and where?

My opinion is based on 43 years of Interstate driving, a lot of them around and through floodwater.

lisa1760 · 25-04-2015, 01:29 AM

OK - when I started thru the water on a flat street with a little bit of a dip it was just above the bottom of the rim - I was driving about 20 ks a 4x4 came screaming thru from opposite direction which caused a wave of water to to hit me & my car just stopped dead - in the 10 minutes I sat there till I got out that is how fast the water rose - I'm not an idiot female driver - & the same 4x4 driver came back & did the same going back home I guess causing a larger wave to swamp & really **** off the SES guys that were helping me

lisa1760 · 25-04-2015, 01:44 AM

This was the car in front of me & how deep the water was when I started thru it

uniacidz · 25-04-2015, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by lisa1760

OK - when I started thru the water on a flat street with a little bit of a dip it was just above the bottom of the rim - I was driving about 20 ks a 4x4 came screaming thru from opposite direction which caused a wave of water to to hit me & my car just stopped dead - in the 10 minutes I sat there till I got out that is how fast the water rose - I'm not an idiot female driver - & the same 4x4 driver came back & did the same going back home I guess causing a larger wave to swamp & really **** off the SES guys that were helping me

Happened to me in the august / September Sydney flash flood storms last year.

Whilst 4x4 can handle the water, their actions towards other motorists is appalling in treacherous conditions

Actually word 'assholes' was said numerous times.

Sorry for your loss

Cos of that moron, you have to get a new car

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SensationFG8 · 25-04-2015, 04:13 AM

Username taken, as an emergency service worker you of all people should realise people are hit by things they can't control. Your attitude is appalling, just my opinion.

I've spent my whole life around emergency services both actively and passively if you want to pull that card, only a very special few like to rub tragedy in the victims face with statements like the ones you're making. Congratulations.

MAGPIE · 25-04-2015, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by SensationFG8

Your attitude is appalling, just my opinion.

Not just your opinion.

usernametaken · 25-04-2015, 04:31 AM

Not sure how I'm rubbing anything in anyone's face.

Perhaps, you need to tone down the fake outrage.

The OP doesn't seem too fussed.

loony888 · 25-04-2015, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by usernametaken

Not sure how I'm rubbing anything in anyone's face.

Perhaps, you need to tone down the fake outrage.

The OP doesn't seem too fussed.

yep, i reckon lisa is dealing with your remarks very well, her explanation seems fair enough to me, but even if it didn't who are we to judge? you say you're in emergency services? if you are i'm sure you have seen plenty of instances where people get caught in situations through no fault of their own, and plenty where stupidity has put them, and their rescuer in harms way, that's life.

If you don't like it you could get a job where your critical unfounded (because you weren't actually there, were you?) opinions might be of some use to someone.

but so far you're being a dick

lisa1760 · 25-04-2015, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by usernametaken

Not sure how I'm rubbing anything in anyone's face.

Perhaps, you need to tone down the fake outrage.

The OP doesn't seem too fussed.

Actually, I was fairly offended by your "assuming remarks" but the language I wanted to use at you I thought might get me kicked off FF's & to me you aren't worth that as I've used lots of information I've found on here when I've worked on my cars

noflac52 · 26-04-2015, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by usernametaken

Not sure how I'm rubbing anything in anyone's face.

Perhaps, you need to tone down the fake outrage.

The OP doesn't seem too fussed.

This is not fake outrage.

Your armchair assessment of a situation you were nowhere near is totally unprofessional. A professional emergency service worker doesn't assess an incident scene unless they are there. Its just ludicrous and usually ends in an incorrect conclusion as it has here.

To me this criticism is similar to sensationalist reporting that is prevalent at these times. Things like reporters standing in flood water saying don't go into the water because its dangerous or standing outside in a cyclone warning people not to go outside etc etc etc. In this case usernametaken is assessing your situation from in front of his computer screen. Its just laughable!!!

In my case I have had four large trees in my property fall and do lots of damage around the place. Would you like to assess my situation usernametaken from your computer and use your emergency service experience and advise me of what I should have done to prevent this.

I have a long professional career as an emergency service officer and would like to apologise to Lisa for the criticism from this other alleged emergency service worker. It is highly unprofessional

I think the car will be written off too. I hope you get a nice new one.

Cheers Ken

mik · 25-04-2015, 08:17 AM

That's a shame, but you got out ok, that's the main thing.
I would be hoping that insurance does the right thing and coughs up, as others have said, I wouldn't like to be stuck with a car that's been in floods...... fresh water or salt, because you can bet your bottom dollar even if they spend a lot of coin trying to fix things up, there's a very big chance it may end up a major head headache down the track.

Brazen · 25-04-2015, 09:12 AM

In the article I linked on the first page of this thread where the lady is being swept away you can see the ridiculous bow wave of the 4wd coming from the opposite direction.

Would love to see insurance companies pursue these idiots to prove a point.

Yellow_Festiva · 25-04-2015, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Brazen

In the article I linked on the first page of this thread where the lady is being swept away you can see the ridiculous bow wave of the 4wd coming from the opposite direction.

Would love to see insurance companies pursue these idiots to prove a point.

This does raise a good point. It may be too late for Lisa but I would read the wording of the PDS carefully and not answer questions on the spot as the fact the car was immobilised due to the actions of another may change things.

Flooding seems to be a grey area depending on where the water came from....

Madaya · 25-04-2015, 09:32 AM

...and when disaster stops a 4 wheel drive, its all over red rover and you will be extremely lucky to get out alive. They can drive you deeper into the ****.

martyal44 · 25-04-2015, 09:44 AM

To the OP, hope you're OK and be glad you're safe as that area copped it very badly. Please keep us up to date on your insurance progress as well.

lisa1760 · 25-04-2015, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by martyal44

To the OP, hope you're OK and be glad you're safe as that area copped it very badly. Please keep us up to date on your insurance progress as well.

I don't know if I've made a mistake or not but when I rang Allianz I told them exactly what happened - the woman was very helpful, told me of things I had on my policy that I had forgotten - use of a hire car (which I pick up tomorrow) asked about any other damages to items in my car & myself & that I won't be losing my no claim bonus - unlike a work mates partner whose Insurance Company has accused him of "on purposely driving into the flood water". My car will be assessed on the 30th so will let you know how it all goes

chrisandsharon · 27-04-2015, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by lisa1760

I don't know if I've made a mistake or not but when I rang Allianz I told them exactly what happened - the woman was very helpful, told me of things I had on my policy that I had forgotten - use of a hire car (which I pick up tomorrow) asked about any other damages to items in my car & myself & that I won't be losing my no claim bonus - unlike a work mates partner whose Insurance Company has accused him of "on purposely driving into the flood water". My car will be assessed on the 30th so will let you know how it all goes

If it's a 'right off' Ford in Nowra (kinghorne motors) have the exact same colour parked out front ready to go.....looks bloody nice! 50th anniversary XR6 model - one owner

Here's the link to it...... I sent you a message also

http://mobile.kinghorn.com.au/view.p...Sedan/9489751/

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chrisandsharon · 27-04-2015, 05:39 PM

Here's the nitro blue one.......50th anniversary one too......same owners.

http://mobile.kinghorn.com.au/view.p..._Sedan/9489797

xxx000 · 25-04-2015, 04:15 PM

best of luck with everything, I'm sure it'll work out o.k.

dave351cid · 26-04-2015, 12:38 AM

glad you got out ok Lisa. sounds like you did the right thing by telling the insurance comp the full story. they can see it wasn't your fault that the car got flooded. shame that you didn't get the rego of the 4x4 then they could have made him pay.

flood water can rise very quick . a few years ago I was on the road in the work landcruiser ute and came to a spot where the water was over the road. the local cop was parked on the other side and he walked through the water with it barely coming over his feet. we spoke for a few minutes and as I put the ute into gear to drive through there was a wall of water atleast a metre deep came across the road carrying logs and fences. if I had taken off a few seconds earlier I would have been right in the middle and washed off the road. next morning when we went back there was no road left.