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I'll buy a brand new FH before Ford closes in 2016 but I don't have high hopes for it lasting as long as my old EB did if I'm totally honest.
I'm sure it will be a much, much nicer car though.
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Even look at what we were dished up in the 70s from holden and ford, the imports even back then were a better package Ill give holden their due, they got out there and pushed the export a bit, pushed the marketing a lot better than ford, if they hadn't they would have died well before ford ,then lets not forget the government cash propping program Half the stuff we buy from ford or holden isn't all made here ... |
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real aussies drive aussie
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Classic plastic not rustique. Lol. How much bog is in an old car under that shiny paint? Theres nothing like a new car. Love the advanced technology.
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Newer cars are far safer in crashes, more fuel efficient, and steer and brake far better than older cars.
Old cars are good for a hobby, not for every day driving. |
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Wheel bearings where adjustable and greaseable............ and dirt cheap, you could actually buy components to repair window regulators if they wore out.......... there is/was a lot of good things about the old cars and having smashed up some old cars...... I can honestly say some of them are not the wealkly made dung boxes that people make them all out to be. |
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There's a difference between weakly designed and intelligently designed though. And old car may be solidly designed and not appear to crumple as much as a new car but that's irrelevant, it's the safety of the occupants that's important and a rock solid old car won't crumple smartly like a new one. I wouldn't be surprised if your safer in a Hyundai Getz than say an XY Falcon in an accident.
Modern cars are not designed to fail, they are designed with a design life in mind. I recall reading years ago that the old 4spd Falcon auto was designed for a 250,000K practical life, at 20,000k's/year, that's around 12.5 years, I don't know anyone who has purchased a NEW car and kept it that long, fairly safe to say in most cases a new car will do the job. Once you've restored you old car to new condition, you've probably got a similar life expectancy in it, but can it be insured reasonably, fuel economy, safety and importantly, spare parts will be in short supply. Wouldn't be fun breaking a fan belt on the family holidays and have no chance of obtaining one from the local garage - guess you could resort to using the wifes stockings thoughe ![]() |
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The old cars had much problems in their days as the new ones of today. Truth to be known every thing will wear & tear. |
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I totalled my XR6
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Depends on second hand ? The wimps have been weeded out after a few years
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I drive a 2013 Focus Sport.
It drives much better than my ex cars 1964 Falcon XM 1972 Cortina TC It is also ANCAP 5 star safety. Doesn't stop me in saying the Falcon and Cortina are WAY cooler. Styling is what keeps old cars going. I spent dollars on them, just like you do with new cars. I will buy another one car again but as an everyday car I'd never drive them.
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Mind you the FG is apparently a good car engine, trans and diff wise unlike BA-BF. Its just the plastic crap that turns to ****. I'm sticking with two EFs on gas....Cheap to run, oil change and plugs .5hr every 10,000k's, easy to fix most things and brake parts etc are cheap as chips too. |
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Id rather drive a new or newer car any day over an old car there for weekends. New cars are safer way more comfortable good heat and a/c. Way more economical Don't get me wrong i love the oldies and have had an xe esp as a daily for over a year then got a late model car and its night and day. Also if you have a decent scanner and can use it new cars are easy as to work on and diagnose with a scanner i love late model cars and always will over some old bucket
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if you have the time to spare, may I suggest you look up (use google) "the Light Bulb Conspiracy:Planned Obsolescence"
it certainly suggests that companies build in 'failure'. see what you think. I found the example with modern printers to be very true, from my own experiences |
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I love looking at old cars. Driving them & keeping the rust at bay.... well thats entirely another matter.
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When a car gets past you, you just want to go after them, you want to chase them down, you want to pass them. It's primal. But then there's another side to it, where you just completely forget about all the other cars on the track, and you feel like you're in another world. It's just you, at one with the road and the car. Eric Bana |
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I love the classic older cars, I've had plenty and a couple of show cars. Yes they are cheaper for parts and easy to work on.. But they have there issues, overheating in traffic in a 35 degree day one eye on the temp gauge watching the needle. They drive like an old barge no brakes,the clunking top loader ooooh love it.. But weekend cars for me only these days. Then there's the new cars bang get in and drive, driving an older car in torrential rain in Qld no thanks, You don't feel safe at all.
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The difference for me is that today's vehicles offer a choice to consumers as to whether they want
cheap, disposable $20,000 cars or more substantial SUVs and Trucks. Thanks to that competition and reduced tariffs, cars today are basically the same price as predecessors were 15 years ago. That makes near recent examples suitable as project cars, affordability has never been better. I had my fill of classic Falcons when I was much younger and could get V8 Falcons for very reasonable prices, today I wouldn't say thank you to $20K and $30K examples of cars i had 30 years ago.. |
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Yeah, cause old Range Rovers are about the most reliable car on the road.
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Range Rovers and Land Rovers didnt rust that must due to the massive lubrication system fitted to the chassis, all the mechanical parts leaking like a sieve!!!
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Learn your lesson and stop buying new cars. Wasted money and for society's sake you're better off putting your cash in the hands of someone like you and me who wont sit it inert in a bank for 80 years. Not that that would be your incentive, the real incentive is not getting blatantly ripped off with over 5k depreciation per year on an asset..
I'll boast that I don't require such an experience to be turned off new cars. I've never bought one due to already being aware it's probably the stupidest thing you could buy from a financial perspective, then there's the money factor I'd have to take a loan if I wanted one right now, even more stupid. Instead save for a house move out of it a year later to dodge cgt and then you can establish milking the payg working class until you accumilate 4-10 investment properties. Then buy your new car.
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Barra Turbo > V8
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![]() I was never going to buy a new car, yet in 2.5 years i have purchased 2 new cars and not one regret, yeah sure i lost money on them and also on mods aswell. But i never purchased for financial gain, i purchased because i enjoy the cars i purchased. Stupid from a financial point of view but your a long time dead.
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Windsor...... Clevo...... Boss... and in that order too.. |
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You will get bored one day...
nek minnit new car in garage! |
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Yep, Clevos always had overheating issues, theres no way a stock one would cope in 35+ degree heat stuck in traffic with the A/C blasting.
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