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The wife beater was quite clear in his diatribe he was talking about violence not race.
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An innocent girl was beaten to a pulp by so called "Aussies".
In my books that would equal an equivalent beating. And the some... Who keeps fighting battles when the war has long been declared? |
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what you're doing here is diminishing what he's actually done. it's not like her smashed her up? This sort of stuff is what abusers say to justify their behaviour. If anyone has those sorts of tendencies.... and/or thinks it's okay to downplay it as not that serious.... please seek professional help because it is serious. It's calling 'minimising' and is a trait of abusive men. https://www.dcp.wa.gov.au/CrisisAndE...cteristics.pdf Minimisation and denial:
There are resources and programs available to men who see these traits in themselves -> https://ntv.org.au/ -> https://www.domesticviolence.com.au/...-education.php for those who have orders against them and stories of success: Quote:
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The fact that there are men who are also victims is a different matter, feel free to talk about it but it still doesn't excuse what you said. |
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At the end of the day what he's done in his personal life doesn't effect his skills as a journalist who covers controversial topics that the MSM won't touch with a fifty foot pole because of backlash from advertisers when the offended types start trying to hurt people financially because they don't agree with an opposing opinion. |
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I watch that video and it is not Avi that makes my blood boil. It is the violent perpetrators, and the many (many!) people that stood by and chose to "not notice".
This **** wouldn't have happened if you guys would just re-name Victoria already. |
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I think some are steering this thread off topic - what is shown in that video is not domestic violence.
Maybe create another thread dedicated to the appalling issue of DV so this thread can stay on the appalling topic of this vicious 8-on-1 attack on a 15 year old girl? |
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That is no way condoning DV - it just seems we are straying a long way from the topic which is that group bashing |
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I'm not looking for an apology or to derail the thread, just calling it out where I see it as unfortunately bringing it up in general conversations is the only way to get the ball rolling on a cultural change to weed these sorts of comments and behaviours out.
To get back on topic... it seems like the second video is saying that this chick has gone out and assaulted other girls. Is that right? |
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Seems like finally Victoria Police has decided to investigate after changing their minds, only after community outrage of course. |
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Regarding her history if she had done something to those specific girls there might be a case for pause. If, as it says in the second video, this was just about her getting friendly with some bloke those girls think they own I can't see that as acceptable at all. |
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I couldn't give a rats about this nobody, I wouldn't know him if he jumped out of my porridge. He is encouraging his minions to view a You Tube clip that earns him money! The clip is of a violent attack on a young girl. The victim and her family have asked the media to please leave this alone. This dirt bag is claiming his motive is to stop violent attacks. The same dirt bag is a convicted wife beater!! Some people can justify anything to themselves. I'm hardly 'playing the man', just pointing out facts.
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No different to MSM journalists except Youtube ones generally won't shy away from controversial topics. |
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This wife beater mashugana is all about self promotion. Absolutly nothing to do with 'controversial topics'. The Herald Sun hardly prints a paper with out a headline about African gangs. It's a Strawman arguement.
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Since you seem to know the victims family why don't you invite them here and they can tell us themselves? You again with your wife beater comments playing the man rather than the ball, more controversy over journalist skipping a chopping board off the missus head rather than the child copping a beating by the kids of reffos. |
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What about the 15 year old Islander kid who was murdered in Deer Park a few days ago? That was all over MSM locally.
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That is central to the discussion surely? |
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I don't think it was Avi that filmed this group bashing then posted it on YouTube - I thought he picked up the vid that was already posted by the thugs and then put his editorial over it.
I can certainly see how some are not happy that he did that - and if what they say is true they have a point but is it the greater evil in all this? Let's not pretend that his is the only video of this bashing...if he pulled his video today there would no longer be that bashing with commentary that condemns it; all we would have is the offender's fight-porn version of their work. I'm incredibly surprised that some are more outraged by Avi than they are outraged with the thugs that group-bashed a 15yo girl and the many people that chose not to notice the bashing. I think it is the by-standers that **** me off more than the thugs. Seriously disappointed at those that are trying to find as much fault as they can with Avi and the 15yo girl that was gang-bashed. Have a look at how much content they have posted in this thread and who their outrage or disappointment is directed at. Is this where I am meant to say "What a time to be alive." Quote:
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Avi is the brother of Manny Waks.
I prefer the latter’s take on how you engage with society when it presents issues. He is dogged and outspoken, but definitely not a bully or muckraker. |
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All for 'fun' of course. The smart ones realised that the chase was half the fun and knew that if they were the next target best to just stay where you were sitting and not move. The mob would get within a few feet then just stop because half the fun was scaring the tripe out of someone and wanting them to run so they can be chased. Having said that I did think the same thing, why wasn't she defending herself more? I guess agro promotes agro so God knows what would have happened if she tried to say something back or take a swipe at someone.
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