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When whooping cough outbreaks started to take the lives of babies (vaccine doesn't work until one year old) in areas where there are lots of anti-vaxers and poor herd immunity, people started to refer to anti-vaxers as "baby killers" The whole debate gets nasty at times. https://www.qt.com.au/news/her-daugh...-Lz9WBSm2Oa748 |
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Why are you using the numbers of fines as evidence instead of the numbers of infections? You know that being threatened with fines generally curbs behaviour? |
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Drink driving should be optional too. You've got airbags right? You and your family should be safe, why would you care what others are doing on the road? |
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Just saw on the news, "no jab, no pay". Start treading water, ****s got deep yo!
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Yes, but he seems happy to extend to those on benefits that dont vaccinate. Fine by me, good cost save.
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Nothing is compulsory and govt was bluffing or it was for baiting media. Regards, George V |
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I think its a basic human right to not be forced to put something in your body you don't want. Im not an anti vaxer but like a lot of others question the development time of these covid vaccines and will be waiting a bit before i or my family choose to have one.
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The potential vaccine is good news of hope on the horizon, recent antibody studies overseas have shown the opposite to initial thoughts of short term immunity relating to the virus and good immune response to even asymptomatic cases.
https://youtu.be/D5Z6wdu1eI0 Dr J.Campbell goes into detail. This news combined with developing early stage treatment options and hopefully a nice warm summer could see some big positive changes. Hopefully Australia and in particular Victoria moves towards providing some antibody screening sooner rather than later so we can start to develop a better situation picture, I’ve mentioned before that if they had the blood donations screened it would be an excellent way of encouraging donation and collection of value able data at the same time. |
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#5473 | |||
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Let us see what happens when the government rolls out the 'no jab, no pay' type approach for this Covid vaccine. The principle will be the same as childcare rebate and preschool and kindly enrolment. Basically, anyone on any type of government payment (pension, unemployment benefit, family tax benefit A/B) must be vaccinated to receive their payment.
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I think jab/no jab will be a great conversation once we get anywhere near a vaccine. Right now its wasted energy.
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There was/is a requirement for people who may be infected or confirmed to be infected to self isolate.... Simple to understand. Instead people were going to get tested, then while waiting for the result they were going to work, going to the shops etc and worse still there were a significant number who still went out even after having a positive test. The disparity between the number of people doing this and the number fined was because of "administrative" issues. The teams doing the people at home checks (ADF and Health workers) were finding people not at home... but the police didn't/couldn't follow up with a fine.
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I'm all for it too. People will understand the plight of the 'anti-vaxxers'. Financial coercion sorts out the men from the boys when it comes to these matters.
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So the government is saying that but you have other information?
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I don't do needles so they will have to put it in a pill for me.
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Imagine a situation where a person on the dole refuses to vaccinate and knocks back a job in an aged care centre that requires staff to vaccinate. You'll all be happy to keep paying tax so this person can stay on the dole and doesn't have to compromise his principles and get the shot (and the job)
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By definition, the term means "a dangerous, difficult, or otherwise unfortunate situation" but I struggle with the concept that a situation that is avoidable and of ones own making based on some feeble logic or sense of 'rights' can properly fit the definition. I've no issue with coercion or the application of sanctions against those who refuse to do something that (by the time it is available) will offer a measure of protection for not only them but for the entire community.
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But back to the question, do you want to keep supporting the anti-vax welfare recipient? |
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I’m about as far from a supporter of long term welfare recipients as you’ll find but that’s not something that should be leveraged. People got upset about rights when the government wanted to have the Welfare card that restricted where and what money could be spent on, what your suggesting is a massive reach from there. |
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It’s OK Martinka, it will be a suppository.
![]() ![]() I’m still unsettled by this inference that “a cure” (my summary of the way people are thinking) is just around the corner. |
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Gawd NJNP, I think 2020 will be known as the year of acronyms!
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