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Work Horse · 19-06-2020, 08:06 AM

Job opportunity!

Testing sewage in Australian suburbs would be a cheap and easy way for health authorities to pin down localised outbreaks of coronavirus, the national science agency says.

https://www.9news.com.au/technology/...3-724ef18b5300

five 7 · 19-06-2020, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by guzzis3

I wonder if the 2 imported cases are the 2 porn stars who went to that woman's door to tell her her 10yo was googling them...

Haha how did you manage to see that add its not long aired here, we have some very patronising propaganda teaching what should be common sense.

marty351 · 19-06-2020, 08:35 AM

Glug-blub?

five 7 · 19-06-2020, 08:52 AM

And NZ now has another import of Covid, turns out testing was optional at the border and in isolation, yet Govt have been banging on how important testing is for all of us, but they have'nt practiced what they preach. Had two women let out to basically roam the North Island out of isolation no test, plus two fourteen year olds let out of isolation no test to attend a Mongrol mob funeral

, these two did a runner. For want of a better word this has turned into a Cluster **** for Govt who are back pedalling and holding no one accountable.

**russellw** · 19-06-2020, 09:18 AM

21 new cases for Australia (mostly Victoria) and no deaths so CMR drops to 1.380% but active cases rise to 412 (5.6%).

1 new case and no deaths for NZ so CMR is 1.460% and active cases at 2.

The UK had 1,218 new cases and 135 deaths so the CMR is down to 14.074%.

Just under 26k new cases in the USA yesterday and 809 deaths sees CMR down to 5.368% and active cases down to 53.5% although the raw numbers are rising again.

Other notable points:
Chile reported an additional 31,422 cases that had been missed;
Canada passes 100k cases;
North America passes 150k deaths;
Asia recorded a new daily high for new cases with 42,069;

Palestine (45), Mauritania (201), Kenya (213), Guatemala (545), Nepal (671), Nigeria (745), Ukraine (829), Indonesia (1,331)and India (13,827) all recorded new daily highs, those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day.

prydey · 19-06-2020, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by russellw

21 new cases for Australia (mostly Victoria)

i feel there needs to be more clarification on these types of announcements (not you Russ, just in general media). Without looking further in to it, it can appear that Victoria are struggling to get on top of the situation, but the reality is, a large portion of these cases are returning travellers from overseas. Some are already confirmed cases even. The fact is, the bulk of international travellers land at either sydney or melbourne and any cases among these people simply get assigned to the state they land in. There is no risk associated with them as they are straight in to quarantine. These details tend to get left out and the media just love to make it sound like there is still a regular occurance of daily new cases. While there are still some cases from community transmission it sounds a lot more dramatic if all the imports get included in the headlines.

All it does is prolong the decisions to open the internal borders back up.

Bossxr8 · 19-06-2020, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by prydey

i feel there needs to be more clarification on these types of announcements (not you Russ, just in general media). Without looking further in to it, it can appear that Victoria are struggling to get on top of the situation, but the reality is, a large portion of these cases are returning travellers from overseas. Some are already confirmed cases even. The fact is, the bulk of international travellers land at either sydney or melbourne and any cases among these people simply get assigned to the state they land in. There is no risk associated with them as they are straight in to quarantine. These details tend to get left out and the media just love to make it sound like there is still a regular occurance of daily new cases. While there are still some cases from community transmission it sounds a lot more dramatic if all the imports get included in the headlines.

All it does is prolong the decisions to open the internal borders back up.

I was going to say the same thing. Most of the new cases are imported.

I wonder how strictly they are enforcing the quarantines of these confirmed cases they are letting into the country? Or are they expecting them to self regulate?

prydey · 19-06-2020, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

I wonder how strictly they are enforcing the quarantines of these confirmed cases they are letting into the country? Or are they expecting them to self regulate?

they are being isolated. there is no risk. they just get reported as a statistic and the media paint a false picture.

prydey · 19-06-2020, 11:38 AM

https://www.news.com.au/national/vic...a3dcb14ccedec4

i found this pretty funny. i live in sa so i'm used to the insults but still thought it was funny.

kind of funny seeing all the premiers around the country all throwing barbs at each other over the border issues. its like its now some competition rather than the good of the country as a whole.

Bossxr8 · 19-06-2020, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by prydey

they are being isolated. there is no risk. they just get reported as a statistic and the media paint a false picture.

Are you sure about that? I remember in the first month or so, people who where supposed to be in isolation after testing positive were roaming all around town.

guzzis3 · 19-06-2020, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by five 7

Haha how did you manage to see that add its not long aired here, we have some very patronising propaganda teaching what should be common sense.

Went viral as soon as it was aired. I saw it what ? several days ago.

I REALLY love a lot of things about unzud and seriously considered moving to picton or surrounds, but I don't like everything. Not a fan of your current government, but then anything compared to our politicians. I mean I'd rather Trump.....

guzzis3 · 19-06-2020, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by CoupeKing

Imagine someone said last August...

''A virus will be released (just like every other election year) that will send the world and all of Australia into lock down, and fighting over toilet paper''

They would have been laughed out of town.

People laughed when the simpsons had a president Trump episode also.

You can't write this stuff....

I've thought for along time the most we can hope for from politicians is comedy. Laugh so you don't cry...

nstg8a · 19-06-2020, 05:14 PM

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**cs123** · 19-06-2020, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Are you sure about that? I remember in the first month or so, people who where supposed to be in isolation after testing positive were roaming all around town.

There is mandatory hotel quarantine for all incoming people for 14 days. It has been this way for a long time.

Initially there was a requirement for self isolation, which was also enforced by random checks, but this was not sufficient.

But hotel quarantine is not completely safe. There is a cluster in Melbourne caused by one of the workers at Rydges becoming infected.

MITCHAY · 19-06-2020, 07:28 PM

Limited crowds of 1-2k back next month for the Raiders and Brumbies back to back games.

If no issues then they will go to the 25% of capacity cap.

I won't be surprised if the first game for the Raiders without restrictions is a record crowd. Though that may not even be this season.

five 7 · 19-06-2020, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by guzzis3

Went viral as soon as it was aired. I saw it what ? several days ago.

I REALLY love a lot of things about unzud and seriously considered moving to picton or surrounds, but I don't like everything. Not a fan of your current government, but then anything compared to our politicians. I mean I'd rather Trump.....

Hey your not alone on our Govt and your most welcome here. You might find Picton has a knew name tho it dosn't fit some PC peoples agenda.

Sprintey · 20-06-2020, 01:06 AM

Dunno if it's been mentioned, but as the news/politics has been so toxic around the world I've been spacing out off in the famous incidents of computer gaming. There's some funny stuff there. This event was legendary - the Corrupted Blood Plague of World of Warcraft:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFMv_hqinvc

Programming oversight. Deadly pathogen. Unintentional breach of containment. Asymptomatic carriers. Isolation attempts, quarantine attempts. People running for the hills, or swimming to far off islands. Suspicion of others. Trolls spreading it. Cities desolated. Millions of deaths with skeletons piling up.

Here's some raw footage of the plague:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAEhyHiNdrA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fS8IKiSIfhw

And this guy claims to have unleashed patient zero, after about 10 seconds of moral contemplation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxDvxKeLWlA

**russellw** · 20-06-2020, 12:15 PM

18 new cases for Australia (ALL Victoria and NSW) and no deaths so CMR drops to 1.377% but active cases rise to 429 (5.8%).

No new cases and no deaths for NZ so CMR is 1.460% and active cases remain at 2.

The UK had 1,336 new cases and 173 deaths so the CMR is down to 14.069%.

Just under 28k new cases in the USA yesterday and 733 deaths sees CMR down to 5.332% and active cases down to 53.1% although the raw numbers are rising again.

Other notable points:
Global new cases set a new high of 176,718 - a 23% increase on the previous high;
Brazil passed the 1M cases mark and set a new daily high of more than 55,000 cases;
The UK passes the 300K case mark;
Russia completes 16M tests;
Africa recorded a new daily high for new cases with 10,135;
North America recorded a new daily high for new cases with 40,412;
South America recorded a new daily high for new cases with 69,779;

Myanmar (23), Palestine (75), Kyrgyzstan (132), Israel (303), Ivory Coast (430), Azerbaijan (438), Morocco (539), Guatemala (617), Ukraine (921), Iraq (1,635), Egypt (1,774), Argentina (2,060), Colombia (3,171), Mexico (5,662), India (14,721) and Brazil (55,209) all recorded new daily highs, those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day.

Franco Cozzo · 20-06-2020, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by prydey

https://www.news.com.au/national/vic...a3dcb14ccedec4

i found this pretty funny. i live in sa so i'm used to the insults but still thought it was funny.

kind of funny seeing all the premiers around the country all throwing barbs at each other over the border issues. its like its now some competition rather than the good of the country as a whole.

Our local radio programs all had segments paying out on Adelaide/SA where people would call in and whinge about something that sucks about Adelaide.

The first chip off the block was Adelaide 'Casino'

Just typical rivalry

Anyway COVID19 restrictions have been tightened up in VIC:

https://twitter.com/DanielAndrewsMP/...01483559329792

https://twitter.com/DanielAndrewsMP/...02213670203392

Can only have 5 guests at home down from 20 people.

People outside maximum 10 people only

Extending restrictions on maximum 20 people in restaurants etc.

Strip clubs allowed to open but with maximum 20 people

**DJR-351** · 20-06-2020, 04:17 PM

Sorry FC don't do twitter

Video....

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-...cases/12376316

Victorian coronavirus restrictions tightening as cases continue to increase

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Victoria will bring back tougher coronavirus restrictions, limiting gatherings in homes to five people from Monday, in a bid to address a recent increase in case numbers.

Premier Daniel Andrews said today's case numbers were the highest they had been in two months, with 25 new cases identified overnight.

Mr Andrews has also deferred plans to allow more patrons in restaurants, and flagged the possibility of even tougher lockdowns being introduced in the hardest hit areas over the coming days.

"Since April … half of all of our new cases have come from family-to-family transmission," Mr Andrews said.

"I'm frustrated by it. I'm disappointed by it.

"Unless we can break this cycle … then we are going to see more and more of these cases."

Coronavirus update: Follow all the latest news in our daily wrap.
Mr Andrews said there had been instances of people gathering in large numbers at the homes of family and friends, even though they had been told to self-isolate.

"We have even had people who had tested positive and have been told to go home and isolate and instead they have gone to work, instead they have gone and visited loved ones in large numbers," he said.

"It is pretty clear that behind closed doors when one family comes together in large numbers … they are not practicing social distancing."

The changes will come into place from 11:59pm on Sunday and will limit the number of visitors allowed in a home to five.

People will still be able to meet in groups of up to 10 people outdoors.

The Victorian Government will also delay planned changes to restrictions on businesses and community facilities.

Restaurants, pubs, auction halls, community centres, libraries, museums and places of worship will maintain their 20-person limits until at least July 12.

The Government had been set to increase patron limits inside those venues to 50 people from Monday but that has now been delayed by at least three weeks.

"Three weeks of course being the full lifecycle of this virus where we think that we get the best and clearest picture of exactly what's going on out in the community," Mr Andrews said.

Businesses that were set to open for the first time on Monday, including gyms, cinemas, theatres and TABs can still do so, but with a maximum of 20 people.

Community sport for children and non-contact competition for adults will proceed as planned.

Ski season and accommodation facilities with communal spaces will also open, but with increased screening and safeguards in place.

Hardship fund announced for workers without sick leave
Mr Andrews announced the Government would establish a Hardship Fund for people who cannot go to work because they have tested positive to coronavirus or are told to self-isolate because they are a close contact of someone who has.

They will be eligible for a $1,500 payment if they do not have access to paid leave.

"It is, I think, clear that there are some people in the community that perhaps don't have access to sick leave, for instance," Mr Andrews said.

"Their employment may well be tenuous.

"It is our view that we have to try and remove that barrier where people are, sadly, making the choice that public health is less important than the welfare and survival, in a financial sense, of their family.

"They're wrong to make that judgement but I can appreciate that that is a judgement that is being made."

Victoria flags possible return to lockdowns in hard-hit suburbs
Mr Andrews said he would not rule out the possibility of hotspots — either suburbs or local government areas — becoming the subject of strict lockdowns.

"It may be the case in the days ahead ... where we have seen the data tells us a very clear story that there are extra cases and the highest number of cases, we may need to, for instance, reinstitute the stay at home except for the four reasons," he said.

"We all remember that time, it was deeply frustrating but it was very effective.

"We may need to go back to that setting in given geographical areas."

The four reasons included shopping for food and supplies, care and caregiving, exercise, and study or work if it could not be done from home.

More to come.

Franco Cozzo · 20-06-2020, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DJR-351

Sorry FC don't do twitter

Video....

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-...cases/12376316

Victorian coronavirus restrictions tightening as cases continue to increase

You should there's great fun in stirring the pot everywhere there

Anyway there is currently a climate protest going on in Melbourne at the moment:

https://www.news.com.au/national/vic...d22968cbb4e646

Yellow_Festiva · 20-06-2020, 06:58 PM

Went to the local Maccas for lunch. They have half the place closed to diners.

The other half is all marked where you can and can't sit.

Signs all over the place about keeping 1.5m apart. Yeah thats fine but why close off half the restaurant? There were 4 tables in a row next to 3 more tables all closed off.

Surly they could have opened up a few more seats?

Is there a number limit at the moment per place or are they now doing it per sqm?

My mum took my daughter to Maccas this afternoon. She said they would only allow 3 people to sit and eat in the entire store. They had everyone outside.

Someone asked why only 3 - the Macacs worker said they are only allowed 20 and they have 17 staff working.

Since when were staff considered in the amount of people allowed? This can't be right??

Oh... and another thing. They make you sign in via a QR code or whatever you call it.

This information seems to get sent to a handheld tablet looking device that is accessible to all staff. I overheard two 15 year olds arguing over who was going to confront the guy that had obviously entered dodgy personal information about themselves when they signed in.

There were 10 of those delivery bike riders sitting on the grass verge right outside Maccas - all rubbing against each other, leaning against each other, watching rubbish on their phones together.

But I can't sit at a table by myself within the store...

I can't wait for all this BS to be over.

blueoval · 21-06-2020, 09:04 AM

With this new spike in cases in Vic, whats the chances Vic will close borders in the next few days?

prydey · 21-06-2020, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Our local radio programs all had segments paying out on Adelaide/SA where people would call in and whinge about something that sucks about Adelaide.

The first chip off the block was Adelaide 'Casino'

Just typical rivalry

Anyway COVID19 restrictions have been tightened up in VIC:

https://twitter.com/DanielAndrewsMP/...01483559329792

https://twitter.com/DanielAndrewsMP/...02213670203392

Can only have 5 guests at home down from 20 people.

People outside maximum 10 people only

Extending restrictions on maximum 20 people in restaurants etc.

Strip clubs allowed to open but with maximum 20 people

More egg on Mr Andrews face

Having a crack at S.A.for not opening the border and now having to tighten restrictions back up due to numpties too thick to follow the rules

Franco Cozzo · 21-06-2020, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by prydey

More egg on Mr Andrews face

Having a crack at S.A.for not opening the border and now having to tighten restrictions back up due to numpties too thick to follow the rules

Its effected AFL now with one of the Essendon players testing positive.

One family spread a couple of cases among itself.

I wonder what the actual rate is of infections in the community - there would be people with it who haven't been tested.

Has anyone here been tested? I have and I copped absolute **** for it from work, this was when you needed to have symptoms to be tested.

Tassie f100 · 21-06-2020, 11:03 AM

Bit of a joke cancelling the game because of one positive test.How many times did a player get named on Thurs night,then a late withdrawal because of a virus on the morning of the game.Flu,Covid what REALLY is the difference??

roKWiz · 21-06-2020, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by blueoval

With this new spike in cases in Vic, whats the chances Vic will close borders in the next few days?

Forget closing the borders how about closing all the roads in and out of Melbourne so they aren't coming out into country Victoria.

**russellw** · 21-06-2020, 11:21 AM

27 new cases for Australia (nearly all in Victoria) and no deaths so CMR drops to 1.372% but active cases rise to 453 (6.1%).

2 new cases and no deaths for NZ so CMR is 1.458% and active cases rise to 3.

The UK had 1,305 new cases and 128 deaths so the CMR is down to 14.051%.

Just over 33.5k new cases in the USA yesterday and 719 deaths sees CMR down to 5.285% and active cases down to 53.1% although the raw numbers are rising.

Other notable points:
Global new cases were the second highest recorded at 154,306;
Australia completes 2M tests;
Africa recorded a new daily high for new cases with 10,362;
North America recorded a new daily high for new cases with 41,164;
Asia recorded a new daily high for new cases with 44,171;

Myanmar (23), Palestine (109), Kyrgyzstan (192), Ethiopia (300), Azerbaijan (471), Morocco (539), Guatemala (641), Bolivia (977), Iraq (1,870), South Africa (4,966) and India (15,915) all recorded new daily highs, those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day.

Sprintey · 21-06-2020, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by roKWiz

Forget closing the borders how about closing all the roads in and out of Melbourne so they aren't coming out into country Victoria.

Yep, many regions are free of it, keep them safe.

Within Melbourne, locking down infected areas & testing heaps is how it has been overcome in other countries, eg China, Italy, South Korea.

I bet you are happy you live outside the city now Franco...

guzzis3 · 21-06-2020, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

The first chip off the block was Adelaide 'Casino'

Just typical rivalry

I remember years ago a bus load of tourists turned up at the lightning ridge hilton, expecting a hotel. Similar story in Casino NSW....

Straya. If you had 2 neighbors identical blocks, identical houses and one painted their front door blue and next door painted it green they'd bait each other over the colour of the front doors.