Covid 19 -

[T3rminator]

Originally Posted by HIPO

LOL, i guess the team behind Trump, are way too smart for the haters as usual..........

I feel for those SS agents that took him on the mini joy ride. Those vehicles are pretty much sealed to protect against gas and chemical attacks. I wonder if they drew straws, the driver looks defeated. Feel for their families too.
The smart ones left 4 years ago. My friend's partner protected Obama. He quit the day of the change over Smart move.

[CoupeKing]

Originally Posted by T3rminator

I feel for those SS agents that took him on the mini joy ride. Those vehicles are pretty much sealed to protect against gas and chemical attacks. I wonder if they drew straws, the driver looks defeated. Feel for their families too.
The smart ones left 4 years ago. My friend's partner protected Obama. He quit the day of the change over Smart move.

They'll be fine, there's an internal separation.

But he's wearing a mask so they're all good.

[DJR-351]

Originally Posted by CoupeKing

They'll be fine, there's an internal separation.

But he's wearing a mask so they're all good.

There's a privacy separation screen but only the one self contained air recirculation system, they breath the same air...

President Donald Trump to leave hospital after COVID-19 treatment

https://www.9news.com.au/world/donal...eatment_061020

US President Donald Trump has announced he will leave hospital after treatment for coronavirus.

The President tweeted moments ago, "Feeling really good. Don't be afraid of COVID. Don't let it rule your life. We have developed some really great drugs and knowledge. I feel better than I did 20 years ago."

Mr Trump said he will leave the Walter Reed Medical Centre at 6.30pm (US time).

He has been receiving COVID-19 treatment there since Friday.

The scale of the outbreak within the White House itself was still being uncovered as press secretary Kayleigh McEnany announced she tested positive for the virus Monday morning and was entering quarantine.

Mr Trump's doctors have not released an update on his condition since Sunday morning.

Earlier, White House officials said Mr Trump was anxious to be released after three nights at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center, where doctors revealed on Sunday that his blood oxygen level had dropped suddenly twice in recent days and that they gave him a steroid typically only recommended for the very sick. Still, the doctors said Mr Trump's health was improving and he could be discharged as early as Monday to continue the remainder of his treatment at the White House.

Less than one month before Election Day, Mr Trump was eager to project strength despite his illness. The still-infectious president surprised supporters who had gathered outside the hospital, riding by Sunday in a black SUV with the windows rolled up. Secret Service agents inside the vehicle could be seen in masks and other protective gear.

The move capped a weekend of contradictions that fuelled confusion about Mr Trump's health, which has imperilled the leadership of the US government and upended the final stages of the presidential campaign. While Mr Trump's physician offered a rosy prognosis on his condition, his briefings lacked basic information, including the findings of lung scans, or were quickly muddled by more serious assessments of the president's health by other officials.

In a short video released by the White House on Sunday, Mr Trump insisted he understood the gravity of the moment. But his actions moments later, by leaving the hospital and sitting inside the SUV with others, suggested otherwise.

Ms McEnany spoke briefly with reporters Sunday evening without wearing a mask, but said that no members of the White House press corps spent enough time around her to be considered close contacts.

According to the Centres for Disease Control and Prevention, the best evidence is that people with mild to moderate COVID-19 aren't contagious about 10 days after symptom onset. People with more severe disease likely are contagious no longer than 20 days after symptom onset, according to those guidelines. That means isolation — whether in the hospital or at home — is supposed to last for at least 10 days.

Joe Biden's campaign, meanwhile, said the Democratic presidential nominee again tested negative for coronavirus Sunday. The results came five days after Mr Biden spent more than 90 minutes on the debate stage with Mr Trump. Mr Biden, who has taken a far more cautious approach to in-person events — and has been mocked repeatedly for it by Mr Trump — had two negative tests on Friday.

Mr Trump's doctors sidestepped questions on Sunday about exactly when his blood oxygen dropped — episodes they neglected to mention in multiple statements the day before — or whether lung scans showed any damage.
Read more: Trump update spurs more questions than answers, again
It was the second straight day of obfuscation from a White House already suffering from a credibility crisis. And it raised more doubts about whether the doctors treating the president were sharing accurate, timely information with the American public about the severity of his condition.

Even before Mr Trump's motorcade outing on Sunday, some Secret Service agents had expressed concern about the lackadaisical attitude toward masks and social distancing inside the White House, but there isn't much they can do, according to agents and officials who spoke to The Associated Press. This close to the election, thousands of agents are engaged on protective duty so they can be subbed out quickly should someone test positive.

According to CDC guidelines, in general, transport and movement of a patient with suspected or confirmed infection of the virus that causes COVID-19 "outside of their room should be limited to medically essential purposes."
The disclosures about Mr Trump's oxygen levels and steroid treatment suggested the president is enduring more than a mild case of COVID-19.
Signs of pneumonia or other lung damage could be detected in scans before a patient feels short of breath, but the president's doctors declined to say what those scans have revealed.

Asked about Dr Conley's lack of transparency, White House aide Alyssa Farah suggested the doctors were speaking as much to the president as to the American public, "when you're treating a patient, you want to project confidence, you want to lift their spirits, and that was the intent."

Dr Sean Conley, physician to President Donald Trump, briefs reporters at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center in Bethesda, Md., Sunday, Oct. 4, 2020. Trump was admitted to the hospital after contracting the coronavirus. (AP Photo/Jacquelyn Martin) (AP)
In all, nearly 7.4 million people have been infected in the United States, and few have access to the kind of around-the-clock attention and experimental treatments as Mr Trump.

Mr Trump's treatment with the steroid dexamethasone is in addition to the single dose he was given Friday of an experimental drug from Regeneron Pharmaceuticals Inc. that supplies antibodies to help the immune system fight the virus. Mr Trump on Friday also began a five-day course of remdesivir, a Gilead Sciences drug currently used for moderately and severely ill patients. The drugs work in different ways — the antibodies help the immune system rid the body of virus, and remdesivir curbs the virus' ability to multiply.

The steroid's use has only been proven to help in more serious cases. Among the concerns with earlier use is that steroids tamp down certain immune cells, hindering the body's own ability to fight off infection.
Mr Trump is 74 years old and clinically obese, putting him at higher risk of serious complications.

First lady Melania Trump has remained at the White House as she recovers from her own bout with the virus.

Many in the White House are also shaken and scared — nervous that they have been exposed to the virus and confronting the reality that what seemed like a bubble of safety has become a COVID-19 hot spot. It took until late Sunday for the White House to send a generic note to staffers suggesting they not come to the building if they do not feel well.
– Reported with Associated Press

[EgoFG]

Originally Posted by T3rminator

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The smart ones left 4 years ago. My friend's partner protected Obama. He quit the day of the change over Smart move.

Interesting, I just read that SS follow the specific president they are assigned to, and stay with them even after their term ends.


Maybe I should try to find the link.

[T3rminator]

Originally Posted by EgoFG

Interesting, I just read that SS follow the specific president they are assigned to, and stay with them even after their term ends.


Maybe I should try to find the link.

Well they shut up shop and a few weeks later left the US. I asked why and was given a very short answer. Obviously he can't say too much, and I also try not to ask too many questions . Outside they are just very normal people.

[HIPO]

Originally Posted by T3rminator

I feel for those SS agents that took him on the mini joy ride. Those vehicles are pretty much sealed to protect against gas and chemical attacks. I wonder if they drew straws, the driver looks defeated. Feel for their families too.
The smart ones left 4 years ago. My friend's partner protected Obama. He quit the day of the change over Smart move.

He may get a chance at guarding him again......... in GITMO.....

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by HIPO

He may get a chance at guarding him again......... in GITMO.....

I really do hope they prove the dodgy crap that obummer set in place before he left. Disgusting conduct.

[T3rminator]

So one person (close contact) who went to work whilst their family had tested positive has now caused 25+ cases, and has even leaked into regional Vic. WTF!?!

Is this really just happening in Vic? How is NSW containing all the spot fires they had a few weeks ago? I can't believe this is a governance thing....no one is being "locked up" in other states to prevent transmission... so what is different?

[Polyal]

Originally Posted by T3rminator

So one person (close contact) who went to work whilst their family had tested positive has now caused 25+ cases, and has even leaked into regional Vic. WTF!?!

Is this really just happening in Vic? How is NSW containing all the spot fires they had a few weeks ago? I can't believe this is a governance thing....no one is being "locked up" in other states to prevent transmission... so what is different?

Reporting?

[FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0]

Originally Posted by Polyal

Reporting?

Testing regimes?

[T3rminator]

Originally Posted by FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0

Testing regimes?

Its looking like it could be a combination of things. VIc's track and trace may not be 100% efficient. But also the reporting and testing in other states may not be as rigorous? 30 suburbs in NSW are now on "watch" due to CV being detected in sewerage systems. Not sure how accurate this type of testing is. Other countries have claimed that they detected CV in sewerage samples before Jan. Could be hit and miss.

In any rate, even if other states are not reporting, we haven't seen a flood of sick people going into hospitals. So either it is what it is (few cases), or the virus has now mutated to a point where it is less potent (which I believe is what viruses do?).

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by T3rminator

So one person (close contact) who went to work whilst their family had tested positive has now caused 25+ cases, and has even leaked into regional Vic. WTF!?!

Is this really just happening in Vic? How is NSW containing all the spot fires they had a few weeks ago? I can't believe this is a governance thing....no one is being "locked up" in other states to prevent transmission... so what is different?

It appears Danny boy & Co are bit slow learning & responding on how to deal with covid19 compared to rest of Australia.

Be prepared for more pain as this guy got no idea how he is hurting us Victorians.

[FairmontGS]

Originally Posted by T3rminator

So one person (close contact) who went to work whilst their family had tested positive has now caused 25+ cases, and has even leaked into regional Vic. WTF!?!

Is this really just happening in Vic? How is NSW containing all the spot fires they had a few weeks ago? I can't believe this is a governance thing....no one is being "locked up" in other states to prevent transmission... so what is different?

Simples...

"The Victorian Department of Health and Human Services revealed on Wednesday that it has 1700 contact tracers calling Victorians affected by COVID-19, compared with about 400 in NSW.

The DHHS would not provide a further breakdown of what portion of those 1700 tracers were directly phoning close contacts of COVID-19 cases, however, despite reports from Nine News that just 150 were doing so compared with double that in NSW."



https://www.afr.com/politics/federal...0200819-p55n7a

So nearly all of the 400 CTs in NSW are hitting the phones compare to just 150 of the claimed 1700 CTs in VIC.

[xxx000]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

I really do hope they prove the dodgy crap that obummer set in place before he left. Disgusting conduct.

So Trump must be respected but name calling re a black Democrat is ok?