June 2018 vFacts

jpd80 · 09-07-2018, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Bevsta007

Still very little info we get a diesel, but America only get Petrol. - I think.
they also get a 250KW Edge ST - so will we get an Endura ST

We will get Endura ST Line, a rebadge of the UK's Edge ST Line with 2.0 diesel...

but we are not deserving of 2.0 Ecoboost or 2.7 Ecoboost because Ford thinks that
no one in Australia wants the performance versions or they can't be F***ed to even try..
They need to keep running through CEOs until one starts to listen to the market and wants
to sell more than just vanilla poo that people can get cheaper from Toyota or Hyundai..

Smoke Pursuit · 09-07-2018, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jpd80

We will get Endura ST Line, a rebadge of the UK's Edge ST Line with 2.0 diesel...

but we are not deserving of 2.0 Ecoboost or 2.7 Ecoboost because Ford thinks that
no one in Australia wants the performance versions or they can't be F***ed to even try..
They need to keep running through CEOs until one starts to listen to the market and wants
to sell more than just vanilla poo that people can get cheaper from Toyota or Hyundai..

Territory sales figures are why we get no Petrol option in Endura. They were hard to sell, the figures and holding days don't lie, the only reason Petrol Territory lasted till the end was to help keep Geelong pumping.

Vesper Martini · 09-07-2018, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Smoke Pursuit

Territory sales figures are why we get no Petrol option in Endura. They were hard to sell, the figures and holding days don't lie, the only reason Petrol Territory lasted till the end was to help keep Geelong pumping.

could of should of had the v6 ecoboost in Falcon & territory. would have set them up better for now..

Syndrome · 10-07-2018, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bevsta007

could of should of had the v6 ecoboost in Falcon & territory. would have set them up better for now..

Nope. They tried that in 2007 and changed their mind in 2008.

Vesper Martini · 12-07-2018, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Syndrome

Nope. They tried that in 2007 and changed their mind in 2008.

You mean decided to keep Geelong running, wasn't aware they tried / Trialed the V6 Ecoboost? any info?

Bossxr8 · 12-07-2018, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Bevsta007

You mean decided to keep Geelong running, wasn't aware they tried / Trialed the V6 Ecoboost? any info?

They trial fitted a few NA V6's, but as far as i'm aware there were no plans for an ecoboost version.

Dr Smith · 09-07-2018, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Smoke Pursuit

Territory sales figures are why we get no Petrol option in Endura. They were hard to sell, the figures and holding days don't lie, the only reason Petrol Territory lasted till the end was to help keep Geelong pumping.

However they don't have to keep a local production line going with local only sales as per Territory days. I'd buy a 2.7V6 Ecoboost just because I miss my G6ET but don'y enjoy stepping down into a sedan anymore. Its a 50+ y.o. thing

MrZ · 09-07-2018, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Smoke Pursuit

Territory sales figures are why we get no Petrol option in Endura. They were hard to sell, the figures and holding days don't lie, the only reason Petrol Territory lasted till the end was to help keep Geelong pumping.

Hard to sell? I'm not so sure. Territory was selling quite well before the diesel engine was introduced, and current resale values show that the diesel and petrol models both sell for about the same amount on the used market.

Smoke Pursuit · 10-07-2018, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by MrZ

Hard to sell? I'm not so sure. Territory was selling quite well before the diesel engine was introduced, and current resale values show that the diesel and petrol models both sell for about the same amount on the used market.

Petrols were harder to sell then Diesels new. They had alot longer holding days in comparison when they were brought into stock. Im talking purely diesel vs petrol here, not SY vs SZ.

Dr Smith · 10-07-2018, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Smoke Pursuit

Petrols were harder to sell then Diesels new. They had alot longer holding days in comparison when they were brought into stock. Im talking purely diesel vs petrol here, not SY vs SZ.

I agree, when I replaced our SZ diesel with an SZII diesel last Feb there were mostly petrols still available and the sales split always favoured tdi's. I'm thinking however where Ford don't have to "protect" any local manufacturing now they should bring in these hipo versions of Endura etc..but of course the Fed. government has to play ball and get rid of our adr's or align them with Europe and reduce the cost of compliance of different versions of the same model,as we have discussed earlier.

Bossxr8 · 10-07-2018, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jpd80

Thank you, a glimmer of hope

There was a thread about it, and a link to an article from one of the auto news websites where one of the Ford execs mentions they are looking at the explorer. In the pub earlier in the year.

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Originally Posted by Dr Smith

Just wondering, with the ending of sedans in the USA announced, would they need some increased production volume that could easily happen with some RHD builds if rhd models are also developed in future. Also do they "batch-build" rhd Mustang now and Edge/Endura in Canada?

They don't batch build anything. Everything is mixed together going down the line these days.

**Fordman1** · 10-07-2018, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

There was a thread about it, and a link to an article from one of the auto news websites where one of the Ford execs mentions they are looking at the explorer. In the pub earlier in the year.

They don't batch build anything. Everything is mixed together going down the line these days.

all of the working stations.

^^^^^ This

Automotive manufacturers don’t batch build, thay balance the line by mixing products to keep a constant cadence through all workstations.

Dr Smith · 10-07-2018, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

There was a thread about it, and a link to an article from one of the auto news websites where one of the Ford execs mentions they are looking at the explorer. In the pub earlier in the year.

They don't batch build anything. Everything is mixed together going down the line these days.

So then we just need to get here, the UK, South Africans, and any orther rhd market "to grow some" and demand a hipo version.

Sprintey · 10-07-2018, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Smoke Pursuit

Petrols were harder to sell then Diesels new. They had alot longer holding days in comparison when they were brought into stock. Im talking purely diesel vs petrol here, not SY vs SZ.

Petrol was RWD only affair in SZ. If you wanted AWD, you had to get the diesel. If only they had petrol AWD right to the end...

Vesper Martini · 12-07-2018, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Sprintey

Petrol was RWD only affair in SZ. If you wanted AWD, you had to get the diesel. If only they had petrol AWD right to the end...

Why? I've owned 2 Territory's both RWD, it does the job and uses less fuel.