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Old 27-12-2014, 04:33 PM   #31
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Which is ridiculous as I always indicate in and out and never have a problem with it being impractical to do so.
I'm guessing that your 'indicating in' is when you turn right, not going straight ahead. ?
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Old 27-12-2014, 04:46 PM   #32
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I'm guessing that your 'indicating in' is when you turn right, not going straight ahead. ?
Yes, as per set out in the NSW road rules.

Because of my age I have to have produce a Doctor’s Certificate to renew my licence, I make an effort to understand and drive within the rules to ensure no-one finds any other excuse to take my freedom away from me.

I don’t expect everyone to be as cautious as me, it was just an observation that most don’t understand the road rules for roundabouts or at least don’t try to adhere to them.
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Old 27-12-2014, 05:04 PM   #33
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What I don't get is the number of people I see in late model, high end, luxury cars, that don't utilise the bluetooth that you KNOW is in these cars...
The oldies who can afford those cars still have Nokia 3315s
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Old 27-12-2014, 05:19 PM   #34
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Yes, as per set out in the NSW road rules.

I don’t expect everyone to be as cautious as me, it was just an observation that most don’t understand the road rules for roundabouts or at least don’t try to adhere to them.
You don't "turn right", "turn left" or "go straight ahead" in a roundabout. This is just confusing language that the authorities have bamboozled the public with. A roundabout is a circular road, not a conventional intersection. You enter and exit it. You left signal when you want to exit (optional in Australia, compulsory in Europe) and you right signal (compulsory in Australia, illegal in Europe) when you want to continue around the roundabout until you reach the road at which you want to exit. (Which continent understands the principles of roundabouts better?)

Hope that clarifies it - for Australia!
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Old 27-12-2014, 05:41 PM   #35
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You don't "turn right", "turn left" or "go straight ahead" in a roundabout. This is just confusing language that the authorities have bamboozled the public with. A roundabout is a circular road, not a conventional intersection. You enter and exit it. You left signal when you want to exit (optional in Australia, compulsory in Europe) and you right signal (compulsory in Australia, illegal in Europe) when you want to continue around the roundabout until you reach the road at which you want to exit. (Which continent understands the principles of roundabouts better?)

Hope that clarifies it - for Australia!
The point I was getting at is that the amount of people that put their Right hand indicator on when entering a roundabout, but not actually turning right, is annoying.
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Old 27-12-2014, 06:14 PM   #36
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The point I was getting at is that the amount of people that put their Right hand indicator on when entering a roundabout, but not actually turning right, is annoying.
Yes I understand. Many of them still have the right indicator on while exiting!
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Old 27-12-2014, 06:31 PM   #37
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You don't "turn right", "turn left" or "go straight ahead" in a roundabout. This is just confusing language that the authorities have bamboozled the public with. A roundabout is a circular road, not a conventional intersection. You enter and exit it. You left signal when you want to exit (optional in Australia, compulsory in Europe) and you right signal (compulsory in Australia, illegal in Europe) when you want to continue around the roundabout until you reach the road at which you want to exit. (Which continent understands the principles of roundabouts better?)

Hope that clarifies it - for Australia!
Who has the best road rules is another completely different argument.

This is a matter of who drives to the rules.

Across the board Australians are very relaxed about road rules unless there is a camera involved.

As far as indicating goes, how about lane changers?

First off how many do you see that don’t bother to indicate at all.

Secondly of those that do, how many indicate and then wait until it’s safe to change as opposed to indicator on and change lanes all in one motion.

They expect you to instanly get out of the way, no courtesy, just aggressive driving.

Now I’m at an age where a licence is the difference between freedom for my wife and I or being homebound, I’ve become acutely aware of its importance.

A few years ago when we moved back to live in Australia one of the first things I did was to go to a learn to drive school and refresh myself with the road rules.

Sorry to say it but Australian’s as a whole are poor road users, no if or buts.

And yes you can come up with many places where driving is a shambles but two wrongs don't make a right.
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Old 28-12-2014, 01:16 AM   #38
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Isn't drinking a can of coke distracting??? Why isn't that illegal????????
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Old 28-12-2014, 01:52 AM   #39
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I don’t know if it was ever true or not and I have a feeling it’s nothing more than an urban myth but years ago I read about a fellow who was driving along while drinking from a bottle and he had a minor rear ender when the car in front of him stopped suddenly.

The ambulance fellows lifted him out of the car with the neck of the bottle sticking out the back of his own neck.

As I pointed out earlier there are many things done while driving that could be seen as a distraction but imposing new laws to stop it all would always end up in the too hard basket.

That’s not to say just because there is no law against it doesn’t mean it’s safe.
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seems to me the correlation is not the most common committed offense but rather the most focused on detection.

most committed I would guess to be failing to keep left unless overtaking on a road over 80kph speed limit
I wrote some software that logs driving offences. In testing the two most common offences by far were inappropriate use of foglights and failing to indicate. There was daylight between these two and the rest.

Thing is with the speeding stats, when you commit the most time and resources on one or two offences and only one or two offences, it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy that they will be the most detected.
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Old 28-12-2014, 10:17 AM   #41
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Here's a gray area CBs/Two ways, can you use these while driving?
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While mobile phones are a strong focus in this thread I wouldn't mind betting the myriad of distractions that involve removing of one's hand from the wheel would be covered under existing legislation,
ie Failure to have proper control of a vehicle (Victoria)

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Old 28-12-2014, 02:02 PM   #43
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Here's a gray area CBs/Two ways, can you use these while driving?
From experience if you're just chatting to mates, no problem.

If you're talking about Mr Plod or giving up where he is. Problems
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