Ah, Queensland...sunny one day, fascist police state the next...

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Originally Posted by pottery beige

well youre not so bright if you cant work it out

you do know that more often than not, they do know who you are, where you live etc before you are actually pulled over dont you

any notes from the stop will be logged on SCMODS

make their job hard, they will make your life harder

true story

So your saying because he had attitude or whatever you want to call it....they pulled him over 21 times just to make his life harder. Wow sounds like great police work there. who cares how they do or log what....they act like idiots and abuse their power then they should cop some flack back. I respect the law 100% but not rubbish like this

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Originally Posted by trublu

Now I can understand the attitude of the police in QLD, the bike rider was nothing but a smart *** who shows no respect for authority, if he did he might have got some back.

This thread is full of people ignorant of the facts in this situation. Really.....6 police cars...8-12 officers. One Harley rider who was pulled over for the 21st time in 18 months of bike ownership and not ticketed once. He didn't start the video till it all went stupid on the polices behalf. What's wrong with people
Do you all see that as acceptable just because you say he had attitude.???

I've been pulled over in morning peak hr traffic for a random breath test...on a highway, in a work zone.....with only a worksite entrance for room to pull over. This resulted in a huge line a tipper trucks lining up down the highway causing what I'd suggest a pretty dam dangerous situation. Oh it was on a bend aswell.

Now what I want to know from all you guys is HOW MANY POLICE should have been there for that little incident???
I had attitude because of the danger.....a few truck drivers had time to walk up angrily asking what was going on.......so maybe SWAT should have been called.

[pottery beige]

Originally Posted by 1TUFFUTE

So your saying because he had attitude or whatever you want to call it....they pulled him over 21 times just to make his life harder. Wow sounds like great police work there. who cares how they do or log what....they act like idiots and abuse their power then they should cop some flack back. I respect the law 100% but not rubbish like this

go back and read the last page

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Originally Posted by MITCHAY

I've already had my say in the other thread but this has more visibility so I will post the link here.

Conference regarding the incident from the police themselves http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfvW4_2Rxaw

You may have to spell out your point beige as I've read the whole thread.....as well as the police video here which clearly shows the whole thing as a big waste of effort for nothing.
If you can justify to me why they need 12ish officers for 1 rider who wasn't even seen breaking the law or suspected of something(like carrying 100pounds of c4) then I'll be happy.
The bikie laws are 100% fine. But 21-0 and 12 to1 are odds that don't add up. That's the joke here!

[jmack]

cant wait to see if they pull up everyone wearing a hijab incase they are terrorists,that will never happen cause all the civil libs will b crying racism but this is allowed to happen if u are wearing a leather jacket and ride a harley

[pottery beige]

Originally Posted by 1TUFFUTE

You may have to spell out your point beige as I've read the whole thread.....as well as the police video here which clearly shows the whole thing as a big waste of effort for nothing.
If you can justify to me why they need 12ish officers for 1 rider who wasn't even seen breaking the law or suspected of something(like carrying 100pounds of c4) then I'll be happy.
The bikie laws are 100% fine. But 21-0 and 12 to1 are odds that don't add up. That's the joke here!

cliffs

po po are cracking da poo poo with bikies

old mate likes playing dress ups and dressing like a bikie

po po pull old mate up because he looks like a bikie

old mate pulls attitude with po po

po po called more po po

cheers

[jamies]

Originally Posted by Big Damo

Does that make it alright to racial profile because they don't complain about it?



It didn't start off with executions, it started off with identification, looks like a whole lot of identification going on to me, first its the bikers, then its the car enthusiasts, then its the union protests etc.

Meh, thats in QLD and you QLD residents voted for them, its up to you guys if you want to change it.

Ha ha and your point ?

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by 1TUFFUTE

This thread is full of people ignorant of the facts in this situation. Really.....6 police cars...8-12 officers. One Harley rider who was pulled over for the 21st time in 18 months of bike ownership and not ticketed once. He didn't start the video till it all went stupid on the polices behalf. What's wrong with people
Do you all see that as acceptable just because you say he had attitude.???

I've been pulled over in morning peak hr traffic for a random breath test...on a highway, in a work zone.....with only a worksite entrance for room to pull over. This resulted in a huge line a tipper trucks lining up down the highway causing what I'd suggest a pretty dam dangerous situation. Oh it was on a bend aswell.

Now what I want to know from all you guys is HOW MANY POLICE should have been there for that little incident???
I had attitude because of the danger.....a few truck drivers had time to walk up angrily asking what was going on.......so maybe SWAT should have been called.

They were ****ing him off & if you can't work out why you never will.

[2011G6E]

Originally Posted by pottery beige

cliffs

po po are cracking da poo poo with bikies

old mate likes playing dress ups and dressing like a bikie

po po pull old mate up because he looks like a bikie

old mate pulls attitude with po po

po po called more po po

cheers

I don't think that goes far enough...How about all those people who "play dress up" by modifying their cars to look just like the hoons do. Maybe the "po po" should crack down hard on all them too.

That's the biggest load, the comments I have seen on various websites and comments about how if you dress in leather you are "playing dress up like a bikie" and "deserve everything you get". Nearly ALL motorcyclists wear leather jackets or vests, a lot of them have patches or name badges or the club insignia on them too. They're not trying to "look like bikies"...they are bikies (bikers, whatever), all of us who ride are. Some bikies are law breakers...and there are already laws in place to deal with them...we didn't need the new ones, apart from being a way to make police work easier by doing away with all that pesky evidence gathering and long investigations...so much easier when you can lock someone up just for who they are, not what they may have done.
With cars, you can wear what you like, there's no rules, there's no one style. However, if you ride a bike and value your skin, you have very little choice and you will usually end up with a basic "look"...that being jeans, boots/shoes, leather vest or jacket, and a helmet, sometimes gloves too. You aren't "playing dress up", you're wearing the appropriate safety gear for the vehicle you are using.

If the police can legitimately victimise someone now just for the style of clothes they are wearing and use that as an excuse to pull people up and crawl up their backside with a magnifying glass to start examining their life, then that's yet another step along the stereotypical slippery slope...


As for "numbers" present at that incident. If it was one copper asking for a licence check and asking the questions, no one would complain much. If it was eight or ten coppers pulling over ten or twenty blokes on bikes to do checks, again, it's appropriate, as you want it over and done with quickly, so you need the numbers.
But eight or ten cops with ONE guy, asking the same questions over and over again...? No. Just...no.

[Trump]

Question time:

Is government the solution or is government the problem?

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Originally Posted by pottery beige

cliffs

po po are cracking da poo poo with bikies

old mate likes playing dress ups and dressing like a bikie

po po pull old mate up because he looks like a bikie

old mate pulls attitude with po po

po po called more po po

cheers

I'm trying really hard to understand your points.....but are you still suggesting attitude deserves 12 police, that were incidently there within 5 mins, before they even ran his licsense.
And he wasn't dressing like a bikie....he is a bikie omg. Are you one of these people who think all afghanis are terrorists too.

[2011G6E]

Doesn't really matter the size of the bike or the weather either...you're going to have to wear "the outfit" if you want to help save your skin.
I wear the same outfit no matter how big a bike I'm riding...as you can see here...the other guys just off-screen were laughing with me, not at me...at least that's what they said...

[pottery beige]

Originally Posted by 2011G6E

I don't think that goes far enough...How about all those people who "play dress up" by modifying their cars to look just like the hoons do. Maybe the "po po" should crack down hard on all them too.

That's the biggest load, the comments I have seen on various websites and comments about how if you dress in leather you are "playing dress up like a bikie" and "deserve everything you get". Nearly ALL motorcyclists wear leather jackets or vests, a lot of them have patches or name badges or the club insignia on them too. They're not trying to "look like bikies"...they are bikies (bikers, whatever), all of us who ride are. Some bikies are law breakers...and there are already laws in place to deal with them...we didn't need the new ones, apart from being a way to make police work easier by doing away with all that pesky evidence gathering and long investigations...so much easier when you can lock someone up just for who they are, not what they may have done.
With cars, you can wear what you like, there's no rules, there's no one style. However, if you ride a bike and value your skin, you will usually end up with a basic "look"...that being jeans, boots/shoes, leather vest or jacket, and a helmet, sometimes gloves too. You aren't "playing dress up", you're wearing the appropriate safety gear for the vehicle you are using.

If the police can legitimately victimise someone now just for the style of clothes they are wearing and use that as an excuse to pull people up and crawl up their backside with a magnifying glass to start examining their life, then that's yet another step along the stereotypical slippery slope...

well if you had half a brain you would modify your choice of clothing for a little bit and let the initial bs blow over.... ey

po po are targeting dudes with pink wheels

i'll slap my purple wheels on and giggle like a little fat ****

not hard

[Trump]

Originally Posted by pottery beige

well if you had half a brain you would modify your choice of clothing for a little bit and let the initial bs blow over.... ey

po po are targeting dudes with pink wheels

i'll slap my purple wheels on and giggle like a little fat ****

not hard

So what you're saying in essence is that we have the right to put up with unjust harassment and profiling based on an agenda of total BS wrapped in the cover of "public order and safety"?

What we do have is the right of freedom of expression. Any law that contravenes self evident rights is not a law in my opinion. The fact that there are dissenting voices in the rank and file of the police force is a sure sign of that.

[2011G6E]

Originally Posted by pottery beige

well if you had half a brain you would modify your choice of clothing for a little bit and let the initial bs blow over.... ey

po po are targeting dudes with pink wheels

i'll slap my purple wheels on and giggle like a little fat ****

not hard

Sorry...but it is hard.
People who don't ride wouldn't care I suppose...but you can actually be questioned if you aren't wearing your "dress up outfit". Police will actually recommend that you wear safety gear like leathers if you happen to be riding along in a short sleeved shirt and thongs or something.
As I said, you have little choice in what you wear on a bike if you want to be safe...and most of it is black.

[pottery beige]

Originally Posted by 2011G6E

Sorry...but it is hard.
People who don't ride wouldn't care I suppose...but you can actually be questioned if you aren't wearing your "dress up outfit". Police will actually recommend that you wear safety gear like leathers if you happen to be riding along in a short sleeved shirt and thongs or something.
As I said, you have little choice in what you wear on a bike if you want to be safe...and most of it is black.

there is nothing wrong with your jacket, its safe and sans po po upsetting markings

however

you should be gaoled ten years for that haircut

[BF-2K7]

Seems to me that everyone is soo sure of their rights , but take no responsibilty for their own actions.

You know better, so do better!

[AU1XLS]

We are done here, a lot of passionate view points but it's looks like we will have agree to disagree
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