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Plus, Au sales were hampered buy the "buy one, get two" El deal...
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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The FG really is too soft on the styling, the rear especially The problem is that the general population worldwide are quite conservative whereas I am fairly radical and want the falcon to have that swoopy racey look and handle like one Very few people are radical in their styling tastes so why make a car for just a few. The AU XR aint bad at all in both counts but its got its flaws, still love it anyway Too much is sedate and dull these days, its the 21st century. we should by now be doing the car stuff we saw in back to the future II. Ford stop being mediocre and design a Falcon thats drives and handles like a go kart, stops on a dime, still comfortable for the wife and kids and looks so damn racy that it gives us car people a hard on every time we see one |
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Holden really tried to differentiate the new VE from the preceding VT-VZ product cycle
while Ford clearly saw a need to link their restyled Kinetic FG to previous BA-BF Product cycle. Therefore the styling and proportions of FG over BA-BF is evolutionary, not revolutionary like VE over VT-VZ... I think this is why the VE has remained fresh in buyers eyes while FG seems aged to some, it's as though buyers still view FG as an extension of BA-BF which in some respects it is.. Hard one but, you could make all the changes under the sun with falcon and still not improve sales. It's down to choosing which changes buyers really want and which give bang for bucks..... Given the same circumstances as Holden, a fully redesigned Falcon could achieve similar waistline, and overhang proportions but on the existing wheelbase making it look much smaller. Increasing the waistline also raises the boot lid enabling the boot to be shortened by around 50mm. Substitution of a Corporate V6 would then be possible without bonnet bulge and since the V8 then becomes the longest engine, a further 100 mm could be trimmed from Falcon's front. So what does that leave us with? A new Falcon with similar proportions to VE but significantly shorter, by around 150 mm which makes it much more appealing as both an I-4 mid sized car alternative and as V6/V8 large car version. In essence, you end up with two that look the same size as Mondeo but still have Falcons generous interior room and best of all, both versions can be built locally as RWDs Last edited by jpd80; 27-01-2012 at 11:52 AM. |
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I really dont like their "Big Mouth" front redesign at all, it just makes all their cars look the same like a bloody Aston Martin. That said i really like the FG's, if i had the money i would buy one in a heartbeat. Besides the FPV and XR6T's the Falcons have been really boring since the Tickfords.
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I guess that's the point, Ford has to build cars for right-now-buyers and
sadly, if you don't buy new Fords, Ford can't hear your opinion.. Mind you, releasing a desirable car today, could provide buyers with the initiative to go save and buy one new in 12 -18 months.. |
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Truer words are rarely spoken jpd.
i just wish i could afford a new one :(
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They didnt rush the BA in, god.
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AU had a comparitive model cycle...with the BA timed at that platforms Mid life update...
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The 'out-there' AU was a success, the VT drove better at the time and was targetted heavily at fleets yet outsold the AU by only 20%.
The conservative FG drives better than the VE, is cheaper to private buyers and is targetted heavily at the fleets, yet the VE still outsells FG by 105%. You know why the AU did better? It looked like a new car. The most conservative and elderly people in my town still bought the AU, as it showed to the world they had bought a brand new Falcon. The only people who really panned the looks were the media - but its easy for them as they arnt copping a 20 grand changeover from their EF and EL Falcons. People when spending big money on a new car, want to at least show that they have spent the money on a new car. As soon as I saw the FG I knew it would be a sales disaster, it looked 5 years old on release- it did not progress the Falcon enough, so quickly became irrelevant in the market. |
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I drive a 5.0 litre AU3 and i love it. If people think it was a designing disaster, look at latest Passat and Mercedes. Then put an AU alongside.
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I don't know if 'bold' and 'ugly' are synonyms. It wasn't a popular look. I opted for the LS1 VT though I did highly consider a S2 Silver V8 Fairmont and a S2 TE50 that was highly warmed over (felt quicker than my current F6).. and it was based largely on looks.
For me, the only car that overcame the ugly stick in the AU range was the T3's. The kit they put on it squared up the squatting dog rear, IMO. I'd proudly only one. |
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An the AU T3 have not aged as good as the normal au...
But that could be because of all the fiberglass replicas... The T1 and T2 are so subtle in style, yet still look nice and fresh.
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Ironically its more popular now than it ever was.
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Our AU3 5.0 Has full Tickford body kit, Sports Susp. Factory IRS, Tickford fitted S/roof,Momo Wheel and & gear knob, 5 17 in. Alloys. Headers, 2.5 stainless exhaust has travelled 130ks goes like the clappers. Averages 12.1 l/k can travel from Batemans Bay to Melbourne on a tank. Did i mention it is a F/mont with full books. And looks great.
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Yeaaah boi!
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