Covid 19 -

[prydey]

Originally Posted by Tickford.

Wait a minute. Trump dismissed the pandemic from the very start, he told his people not to wear masks, he organised mass gatherings (against his own medical teams advise) during the election campaign, etc, etc, etc. The list of how he mishandled COVID in the US (and to an extent, the world) is long.

Whether you like to believe it or not, Trump played major part in the COVID numbers being what they are today in the USA. The USA is currently in the situation they are in mostly due to Trumps behaviour/mishandling. And, at almost every Trump rally/mass gathering, he would be dancing like a f**king clown, while his people were dying in big numbers. As if he was totally ignorant to the situation he put his country in. Almost proud even.

Do you hold Scott Morrison to the same accountability? Pretty sure each state has their own government much like we do.

It's just typical of the people who like to bash trump.

The public are also free to make up their own mind. No government makes health decisions that people can't make for themselves. There are millions of Americans taking this very seriously but that doesn't make for an exciting headline.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by prydey

Do you hold Scott Morrison to the same accountability? Pretty sure each state has their own government much like we do.

It's just typical of the people who like to bash trump.

The public are also free to make up their own mind. No government makes health decisions that people can't make for themselves. There are millions of Americans taking this very seriously but that doesn't make for an exciting headline.

It's not going to change under Biden. He will try to enforce a mask rule and the state governors will mostly ignore it, and the yank public won't comply because "muh freedoms". They see it as taking away their rights as americans to do whatever the hell they want in the name of freedom.

[prydey]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

It's not going to change under Biden. He will try to enforce a mask rule and the state governors will mostly ignore it, and the yank public won't comply because "muh freedoms". They see it as taking away their rights as americans to do whatever the hell they want in the name of freedom.

Wrong. Just like anywhere you will likely find it is the minority with the loudest voice. Those taking it serious would be a the majority.

[MITCHAY]

Originally Posted by prydey

Do you hold Scott Morrison to the same accountability? Pretty sure each state has their own government much like we do.

It's just typical of the people who like to bash trump.

The public are also free to make up their own mind. No government makes health decisions that people can't make for themselves. There are millions of Americans taking this very seriously but that doesn't make for an exciting headline.

Very unfair to compare Scomo to Trump on the dealing with Covid.

The national cabinet was established to deal with this and for the most part we have dealt with it pretty good.

Obviously given our experience it is a lot more complicated to go from from 6 states and 2 territories to 50+ in the US but it seems like Trump plays favourites and has no interest in establishing consensus.

I don't think there has been any good faith approach to dealing with it in the US from Trump. By that I mean getting all the governors in a room physical or virtual like we have.

Then as you say you have to get the public on side in a country that is taught from day one they are exceptional, have all these constitutional rights, and seemingly have no concept of collective responsibility.

No wonder it is a cluster **** over there.

[Tickford.]

Originally Posted by prydey

Do you hold Scott Morrison to the same accountability?

Did Scott Morrison come out and claim the virus is fake? Did Morrison tell Australians the virus is "just a flu" and is not as bad as 'they' are saying? Did Morrison tell Australians on numerous occasions not to wear a mask? Did Morrison ask people to gather in huge numbers and not bother about social distancing or not wear a mask? Did Morrison tell us back in January that it will all be over in a month or two? Did Morrison falsely claim that the number of infections were "just a handful" when in fact they were much, much more? Did Morrison falsely claim that the COVID deaths are overstated when they weren't?

No, Morrison didn't.

But one thing Morrison and Trump do have in common is that they both used the pandemic to play political games. They both tried to divide and conquer. Trump was much more successful than Morrison with that tactic.

[marty351]

Originally Posted by Tickford.

Did Scott Morrison come out and claim the virus is fake? Did Morrison tell Australians the virus is "just a flu" and is not as bad as 'they' are saying? Did Morrison tell Australians on numerous occasions not to wear a mask? Did Morrison ask people to gather in huge numbers and not bother about social distancing or not wear a mask? Did Morrison tell us back in January that it will all be over in a month or two? Did Morrison falsely claim that the number of infections were "just a handful" when in fact they were much, much more? Did Morrison falsely claim that the COVID deaths are overstated when they weren't?

No, Morrison didn't.

But one thing Morrison and Trump do have in common is that they both used the pandemic to play political games. They both tried to divide and conquer. Trump was much more successful than Morrison with that tactic.

Why do you remind me of Roger from American Dad?

Is it the foaming at the mouth or the TDS?

I don't know for sure, but it certainly looks like a lack of understanding of State Governance.

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by Tickford.

Did Scott Morrison come out and claim the virus is fake? Did Morrison tell Australians the virus is "just a flu" and is not as bad as 'they' are saying? Did Morrison tell Australians on numerous occasions not to wear a mask? Did Morrison ask people to gather in huge numbers and not bother about social distancing or not wear a mask? Did Morrison tell us back in January that it will all be over in a month or two? Did Morrison falsely claim that the number of infections were "just a handful" when in fact they were much, much more? Did Morrison falsely claim that the COVID deaths are overstated when they weren't?

No, Morrison didn't.

But one thing Morrison and Trump do have in common is that they both used the pandemic to play political games. They both tried to divide and conquer. Trump was much more successful than Morrison with that tactic.

To be fair you omitted to mention most of the State premiers are also playing political games with this pandemic!