Today Tonight Idiots

Duffman · 11-04-2005, 07:53 PM

Anyone just see today tonight I had to post up as some of their fuel saving suggestions where stupid. They had a guy doing 70km in a 80km zone recommending it to people to save fuel. Then they go on to say road rage peopl e use 23% more fuel !!!!!!! I wonder why !!!!!!!! They had another stupid one telling people to turn their car off when they are stopped in traffic yeah that will do the starter motor a great deal of good you might just save enough fuel to buy another one.

Kryton · 11-04-2005, 08:04 PM

im surprised they didnt say that to save fuel to simply not drive your car.
there are some idiots out there.
so you do 70 in an 80 zone, you are saving fuel.
you do 70 in a 70 zone are you still saving fuel?

maybe they could also suggest ripping off half your plug leads and route some piping from the zorst back to the fuel tank to catch the unburnt fuel. to them, thatll be a fuel saver! burning HALF as much fuel each trip!!!

Quasi · 13-04-2005, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by davway

you do 70 in a 70 zone are you still saving fuel?
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But does it use more fuel doing 70 in a 60 zone?

I guess this explains all the village idiots doing 50 in an 80 zone.....they're saving heaps!!

Amazer · 13-04-2005, 08:33 PM

I even find in my Astina I get the best economy between 80-120km/h under is still good but at its best when over 80km/h.

on highway I normally get around 6.5 litres per 100km and around 7.5 litres per 100km in town.

then again I fill it up once every blue moon, ahh the joys of a work car with a fuel card managed by work. The dearer fuel gets the more worthwhile it is having

Rob

Psycho Chicken · 11-04-2005, 08:09 PM

Doing 70 in an 80 zone would make you use more fuel.....at least in my car, I use less fuel the faster I cruise at, up to about 120-130 kph, then it drops off again.

Turn the car off at the lights? Do they realise how much fuel you use to kick over an engine?

cheese · 11-04-2005, 08:16 PM

Does Sandra Sully still host Today Tonght

Mmmmm Sandra Sully :sm_drool:

AdzT3-146 · 11-04-2005, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by cheese

Does Sandra Sully still host Today Tonght

Mmmmm Sandra Sully :sm_drool:

Lol, nah Naomi Robson does.
But yeh Sandra Sully,

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rag top · 11-04-2005, 08:11 PM

Or if you ride a push bike, then you are saving fuel.
Also, if you break down and need to push your car of the road, by pushing it you save fuel.
By the sounds of it, I'm suprised they didn't mention the illegal practice of using "Angel Gear" - just bump it in to neutral down hills....

rob_o · 12-04-2005, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by '67

By the sounds of it, I'm suprised they didn't mention the illegal practice of using "Angel Gear" - just bump it in to neutral down hills....

Really? Is that illegal? I do it all the time whenever I drive a manual.

pauljh74 · 12-04-2005, 02:56 PM

It may save the slow pokes from using fuel, but the rest of us use more because we're constantly accelerating and braking to thread the way through all the moving road blocks that inhabit every lane on major roads - I know I use much less fuel driving at 105 on the freeway late at night with little traffic as opposed to driving between 90 and 105 moving between the traffic - in a 100 zone.

bindi · 12-04-2005, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by rob_o

Really? Is that illegal? I do it all the time whenever I drive a manual.

Dunno about legality but it puts more strain on your brakes and you wear through them quicker... so if you are trying to save money by coasting, it's a false economy really.

**Mechan1k** · 12-04-2005, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by rob_o

Really? Is that illegal? I do it all the time whenever I drive a manual.

Funny thing is dropping it in neutral uses more fuel than allowing the car to back off. If you have a Trip computer ... check it next time ... in neutral at idle fuel is still being run through at a higher rate than an engine backing right off (not a massive revs though).

At a cruising back-off in gear ... you use much less fuel than neutral.

rob_o · 12-04-2005, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by bindi

Dunno about legality but it puts more strain on your brakes and you wear through them quicker... so if you are trying to save money by coasting, it's a false economy really.

I always try to save the brakes aswell, I dont go down a hill with my foot on the pedal the whole time. I just brake, release, then brake again, release, etc.

Some ppl just sit on the brakes as if their pads never ended.

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Originally Posted by Mechan1k

Funny thing is dropping it in neutral uses more fuel than allowing the car to back off. If you have a Trip computer ... check it next time ... in neutral at idle fuel is still being run through at a higher rate than an engine backing right off (not a massive revs though).

At a cruising back-off in gear ... you use much less fuel than neutral.

Hmmmm... thats interesting. Ill have to have a look sometime. Gotta buy a car first though lol.

MustangNut · 13-04-2005, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by rob_o

I always try to save the brakes aswell, I dont go down a hill with my foot on the pedal the whole time. I just brake, release, then brake again, release, etc.

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Arrrgghh ! I hate it when people do that. I drive a manual and it's bloody annoying when auto drivers tap the brakes every 3 seconds, you're never sure if they're just washing off a bit of speed or are going to stand on the pedal and stop.

Even in an auto you can pull it back a cog (say to third or second) to coast down hill at 60k's. your PCM will go into lean cruise mode and use bugger all fuel.

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Ok I feel better now, time to go take my meds

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jabba · 13-04-2005, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mechan1k

Funny thing is dropping it in neutral uses more fuel than allowing the car to back off. If you have a Trip computer ... check it next time ... in neutral at idle fuel is still being run through at a higher rate than an engine backing right off (not a massive revs though).

At a cruising back-off in gear ... you use much less fuel than neutral.

you are incorrect

I use angel gear alot. and I have a trip computer with instant L/100 KM. In 5th gear coasting down hill at 110km it uses 6.5L/ 100km. In angel gear it is 1.8L/100km.

WIKIDSTIX · 11-04-2005, 08:14 PM

damn it, i thought it was 80kph

: stupid fuel

Dodge · 11-04-2005, 08:17 PM

u save fuel, then they will tax us higher on something else,
the best way to save gas is to walk to the serving counter and put up overhead walkways so we dont sit in traffic while 3 people cross the road.

Duffman · 11-04-2005, 08:31 PM

Whats even worse is he was doing it in a BA falcon.

They had a few other stupid ones but I can't remember them they might be up on their site. Will be interesting in the traffic tomorrow to see how many people turn off their engine. Also iv found lately alot of people doing 90km down the highway why i dunno.

Psycho Chicken · 11-04-2005, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by blinkau

Will be interesting in the traffic tomorrow to see how many people turn off their engine.

Be funnier to watch people turn it off in drive and wonder why it won't start again.

dansedgli · 11-04-2005, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Psycho Chicken

Be funnier to watch people turn it off in drive and wonder why it won't start again.

haha I do that, cop lights go on, key goes off and I roll quietly to a stop.

Hasnt failed me yet! 2 inspections and neither checking under the bonnet!

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5speedeb · 11-04-2005, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Psycho Chicken

Be funnier to watch people turn it off in drive and wonder why it won't start again.

lmao cant stop laughing at the thought of that

Yaw · 11-04-2005, 11:22 PM

Maybe Ford need a XR Hybrid
Give it a few more years to get the technology more main stream and it will happen. They have a Ford Escape Hybrid in the states already.

You Yangs · 11-04-2005, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by blinkau

Whats even worse is he was doing it in a BA falcon.

They had a few other stupid ones but I can't remember them they might be up on their site. Will be interesting in the traffic tomorrow to see how many people turn off their engine. Also iv found lately alot of people doing 90km down the highway why i dunno.

They are travelling at 90 because it does save fuel as opposed to 110 and doesn't affect travel times much over short freeway runs of 20 to 30kms

b2tf · 11-04-2005, 09:45 PM

In every Falcon ive ever driven, ive found the best fuel economy to be between 80-120kms. Any lower than that and its ok, but you can see it using it. As for turning it off at the lights, not even going to dignify that with an answer!

Some people just get paranoid with their bills.

Duffman · 11-04-2005, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by You Yangs

They are travelling at 90 because it does save fuel as opposed to 110 and doesn't affect travel times much over short freeway runs of 20 to 30kms

This kinda effects everyone else when there is one in each lane doing 90 in a 110km zone holding up about 20 cars. Even worse the highways where there is only one lane each way I often get them doing as low as 80 while 20+ cars are travelling behind them. Though i surpose all in the name of fuel!
It gets bad when its during peak hour as well and you only have 1 overtaking lane can take ages to get up and around 1 vehicle. I know 90km does save fuel but uses more fuel overall because of the road rage it creates.

cheese · 11-04-2005, 08:45 PM

Don't know her,but then again it's been three years since I lived in Brisbane so I'm a little outta touch.

neb · 11-04-2005, 08:59 PM

doh... i can see it now... traffic jams everywhere from people turning their cars off and not realising why it wont start

SpoolMan · 11-04-2005, 10:16 PM

Today tonight are so bored, they could have pulled 2 plug leads of the 6 cyl and made it a 4 cyl...lol..

neil101 · 11-04-2005, 10:17 PM

It's today tonight nothing more needs to be said really :lookedat:

Citric GT · 11-04-2005, 10:29 PM

An automatic Falcon generally wont lock up its torque converter until about 80 and even then it unlocks at the slightest provacation. In other words, over 80 is better than under. Around 90 - 100 is about the most efficient speed from my experience (in a Falcon/Commodore anyway).

I very rarely watch those shows anymore due to all the false info such as that.