Sct Tuners Back On

Herrod Motorsport · 02-02-2009, 08:10 AM

Well after a long 3 days i finally have the news you all wanted . I have been in constant discussions with Charlie and Rick from SCT and they have agreed to turn on all the dongles to all the tune shops as of now !.What we do need is if you have a tune shop that you use get them to contact Rob or Chris Herrod on 0394645100 or email support@sctflashtuning.com so as we can collect all the information we need as these tuners need to be registered with the SCT as of now. Previously these tuners dongles were licenced to CAPA and SCT does not have a file on who even tunes with the SCT product .All the emails that SCT sent out were from our data base and i am sure we dont have everybody .SCT have agreed to turn the dongles back on to everybody for a two week period and those dongles that are not registed will be turned off again so its real important to get them to contact us so as we can get the information to SCT.

Moving forward with X1 things will go on as it did prior to the dongles being turned off and over the next couple of weeks we will come up with a phase out program that will give you all plenty of time to get your tunes sorted out
SCT would never had done what they did if they were not sure that piracy was going .

If you have an X cal 1 we will be putting together a program avaliable from our dealers to upgrade to X cal3 .

WE are the Australian and NEW Zealand Distributors check out our web site www.sctflashtuning.com

All of your posts help send the message to SCT and i thank you all very much.
cheers Rob Herrod

MNM96 · 02-02-2009, 08:36 AM

Very Well Stated Rob! I will support any company who works through the BS to find an equitable solution as You guys have here.
Classy indeed. I will be in touch.

Mike

FPV8U · 02-02-2009, 08:39 AM

We'll done to SCT and yourself Rob @ Herrod Motorsport.

Glad to see things are being worked out, hopefully not too much damage is done.

The Monty · 02-02-2009, 08:44 AM

So the x1 is going to be dead in a few weeks anyway, and the x3 is no good to me, as I have an AU. So we get 90 days, then thats it, its phased out. Awesome. Do I get $595 buy back on my x1?

MNM96 · 02-02-2009, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by The Monty

So the x1 is going to be dead in a few weeks anyway, and the x3 is no good to me, as I have an AU. So we get 90 days, then thats it, its phased out. Awesome. Do I get $595 buy back on my x1?

Maybe you should gain some facts before getting up on that shoebox Sunshine!

The Monty · 02-02-2009, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Herrod Motorsport

Moving forward with X1 things will go on as it did prior to the dongles being turned off and over the next couple of weeks we will come up with a phase out program that will give you all plenty of time to get your tunes sorted out

If you have an X cal 1 we will be putting together a program avaliable from our dealers to upgrade to X cal3 .

Read what it says. next couple of weeks, we will come up with a phase out program, that will give us plenty of time to get our tunes sorted out.

So we go get our tune, and "in a few weeks", ie the 90 days Charlie has stated, x1 will be phased out, and they are putting together a program to upgrade to x3. Which doesnt tune AU.

Pretty sure I havent missed any info there. Its exactly as Charlie has said, and he wont be budging on it. Some of you people are so quick to swap and change sides its not funny.

Charlie@sct · 02-02-2009, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by The Monty

ie the 90 days Charlie has stated, x1 will be phased out, and they are putting together a program to upgrade to x3. Which doesnt tune AU.

AU's are covered on the X3. We are working on a solution for all X1 customers but will not drop you even after the 90 days. All that we ask is that you work together with your SCT dealers.

Charlie@sct

dynowog · 02-02-2009, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Charlie@sct

AU's are covered on the X3. We are working on a solution for all X1 customers but will not drop you even after the 90 days. All that we ask is that you work together with your SCT dealers.

Charlie@sct

firstly welldone rob and charlie
just a few question's for you charlie:

why are the new updates only 30 writes?

this show's to me that the current situation can rehappen any time SCT want and as you have obviously seen that is the last thing we all want!

i'm told there will be a twelve month plus phase out period so 30 writes seems fishy to me? This is every day for some tuners!

this has not affected me as i have sent rob my dongle number and i will not be upgrading till i run out of writes, also the facts that i am the only unlimited sniper tuner in aust and i still have the unlimited 2.814 software further guarantee this!!!

but before i upgrade to euro on the sct i want written guarantee's that this will not happen to me just as the pay extra for the fg upgrade came up out of the blue? or the hp tuners pay by the vehicle system!

remember we signed up for unlimited write's and all future model's so it is not only morally wrong but legally i would say. again this has not affected me as yet but for the public and for those who it has affected, how can we guarantee the future of all our investments?

how do we feel comfortable SCT don't have another mood swing?

would it not have been smart to sued the culprit if the acusations were true and not affect thousands of inocent customers and tuners? don't need to answer this one just asked it as all who know me know i am the biggest advocate of value for money for all the auto industry!

please answer the ones you can or email me rob has my email this is not to stir the pot but to voice the concerns of 380 plus tuned customers of mine and ultimately mine too!

**CAT600** · 02-02-2009, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by dynowog

firstly welldone rob and charlie
just a few question's for you charlie:

why are the new updates only 30 writes?

this show's to me that the current situation can rehappen any time SCT want and as you have obviously seen that is the last thing we all want!

i'm told there will be a twelve month plus phase out period so 30 writes seems fishy to me? This is every day for some tuners!

this has not affected me as i have sent rob my dongle number and i will not be upgrading till i run out of writes, also the facts that i am the only unlimited sniper tuner in aust and i still have the unlimited 2.814 software further guarantee this!!!

but before i upgrade to euro on the sct i want written guarantee's that this will not happen to me just as the pay extra for the fg upgrade came up out of the blue? or the hp tuners pay by the vehicle system!

remember we signed up for unlimited write's and all future model's so it is not only morally wrong but legally i would say. again this has not affected me as yet but for the public and for those who it has affected, how can we guarantee the future of all our investments?

how do we feel comfortable SCT don't have another mood swing?

would it not have been smart to sued the culprit if the acusations were true and not affect thousands of inocent customers and tuners? don't need to answer this one just asked it as all who know me know i am the biggest advocate of value for money for all the auto industry!

please answer the ones you can or email me rob has my email this is not to stir the pot but to voice the concerns of 380 plus tuned customers of mine and ultimately mine too!

You should consider staying out of this, you have too many fingers in too many pies and ultimately, TOO MUCH PERSONAL BIAS.

Why do you chose this time, when things are almost totally resolved, to come in here stirring the pot (it's laughable that you even try to assure us you are not). You have done enough damage around the place without coming on here, no sponsorship, no morals and spin this "how do we feel comfortable SCT don't have another mood swing?" crap.

You just keep using your blood sucker programs, and let SCT get their issues sorted out in this forum properly.

Daniel

Romulus · 02-02-2009, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by bdave351

**Opinion deleted**

No, Daniel believes that anyone that uses Sniper or HP Tuner is a "blood sucker". There are a lot of tuners in this country that are not naive enough to simply use one product - they use a multiple of products like SCT, Sniper and HP Tuners for Fords, HP Tuners, EFI Live, LS1 Edit for the GM vehicles.

Imagine trying to rebuild an engine with nothing but a shifter

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SpoolMan · 02-02-2009, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by dynowog

please answer the ones you can or email me

Best take them up direct with SCT, according to our records your not supposed to be here...

Bucknaked · 02-02-2009, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by The Monty

Read what it says. next couple of weeks, we will come up with a phase out program, that will give us plenty of time to get our tunes sorted out.

So we go get our tune, and "in a few weeks", ie the 90 days Charlie has stated, x1 will be phased out, and they are putting together a program to upgrade to x3. Which doesnt tune AU.

Pretty sure I havent missed any info there. Its exactly as Charlie has said, and he wont be budging on it. Some of you people are so quick to swap and change sides its not funny.

I'd just wait until all the details have been released. Rob says they are working on a phase out program, so it's possible that it will occur over a longer period. Especially as Rob has said Tuners have 2 weeks in which to get their details in other wise they will be disabled. The original 90 days had no conditions around it.

Lets not turn this thread into the same as the Advisory thread. It would be nice to see this one through. Wait for all the facts as I am sure Rob will release them when he has more information to pass on.

Cam · 02-02-2009, 09:00 AM

Great news, theres going to be alot of happy people out there!

But as stated above, what about AU's?

Tradewind · 02-02-2009, 09:03 AM

What about AU Falcon's are they supported by XCAL3 or not?? I have been using XCAL2 but I understand these haven't been in production for a while either, how much stock is left?

The flash suppliers could still end up with a lot of offside people if AU Falcon is cut off.

The Monty · 02-02-2009, 09:05 AM

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The Monty

Tradewind · 02-02-2009, 09:08 AM

AU Falcon tuning is nearly at the end of the line then hey? ..... And for any Americans watching AU doesn't mean Australian!

The Monty · 02-02-2009, 09:13 AM

Im trying, and Im going off facts that I can find. Nowhere oline can I find that x3 does AU, otherwise I wouldnt have said so. If it does, great, but I already have a product that suits my needs, and had no intention of upgrading as it does everything I need it to do. If I wanted to make adjustments myself, I would have bought what I needed then, not buy one thing, then another.
And yes, of course I want things to be worked out, but what has been posted by Herrods, is exactly as Charlie said in the advisory thread, just worded different.
But at least they are trying.

4Vman · 02-02-2009, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by The Monty

Im trying, and Im going off facts that I can find. Nowhere oline can I find that x3 does AU, otherwise I wouldnt have said so. If it does, great, but I already have a product that suits my needs, and had no intention of upgrading as it does everything I need it to do. If I wanted to make adjustments myself, I would have bought what I needed then, not buy one thing, then another.

Chill out.. If you'd stop posting your rants for 5 seconds and read what's been said you'd see you've got nothing to worry about!

RG · 02-02-2009, 09:27 AM

Good to see that an agreement could be made, well done to SCT and especially Herrod for coming up with a more suitable solution.

As long as the old AU Falcon can continue to be tuned and an agreeable solution can be found to phase out the X1 I am sure that most will be happy.

MNM96 · 02-02-2009, 09:42 AM

At the end of the day, you purchased a product. By your own choice! If you purchased a Licensed product, from a recognized Authorized Dealer, current arrangements stand that you have very little, if anything at all, to be concerned about. If you backdoored the Manufacturer, I would be going back to your supplier with request for a very big please explain! Then, you got it cheap, did it not occur to you that something was wrong? If something seems like its to good to be true.........

Tradewind · 02-02-2009, 09:25 AM

Monty

Charlie has said the XCAL3 will do the AU model Falcon, maybe they are adding something to X3 to make it happen ......... who knows. I doubt that in the current climate he would be saying anything which wasn't true ........ lest at some point in near future he is forced to eat it without sauce.

Looking ok so far.

geckoGT · 02-02-2009, 09:37 AM

It would appear that we are heading in the right direction for those of us that still have X1, so a big thanks to Herrod and SCT.

A lot of the angst and bad feeling would have been prevented on the last thread if someone had of said that the situation was still under consideration and the 90 day period was not the only answer. The impression that was given was that the 90 day period was the final answer, hence the public reaction.

Anyway, we are now going the right way, we just need to wait and see what this "phase out" program consists of. I just hope that it is a reasonable amount of time.

**CAT600** · 02-02-2009, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by geckoGT

It would appear that we are heading in the right direction for those of us that still have X1, so a big thanks to Herrod and SCT.

A lot of the angst and bad feeling would have been prevented on the last thread if someone had of said that the situation was still under consideration and the 90 day period was not the only answer. The impression that was given was that the 90 day period was the final answer, hence the public reaction.

Anyway, we are now going the right way, we just need to wait and see what this "phase out" program consists of. I just hope that it is a reasonable amount of time.

Mate, I did point this out. MANY times over.

Even Charlie from SCT stated that they would help out in any way possible.

Then Ratter came on and explained the reasons why it happened and that a solution was being worked out.

It is as simple as this:

YE OF LITTLE FAITH

Daniel

geckoGT · 02-02-2009, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by CAT600

Mate, I did point this out. MANY times over.

Even Charlie from SCT stated that they would help out in any way possible.

Then Ratter came on and explained the reasons why it happened and that a solution was being worked out.

It is as simple as this:

YE OF LITTLE FAITH

Daniel

Taken to PM to keep this discussion out of this thread.

bdave351 · 02-02-2009, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by CAT600

YE OF LITTLE FAITH

Daniel

While trying to avoid the rant filter,

Im sorry Daniel, but I also have little faith.

As has been stated this morning by Herrods after his negotiations with SCT they are PHASING out the xcal1's forcing you to buy a new one.
(And thats not phasing out as in stopping selling them like every normal bussiness does, but turning off the ability for them to accept new tunes)

Even if thats now changed to six months, I still find it unacceptable action to take based on the actions of one dumb distributor.

geckoGT · 02-02-2009, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bdave351

While trying to avoid the rant filter,

Im sorry Daniel, but I also have little faith.

As has been stated this morning by Herrods after his negotiations with SCT they are PHASING out the xcal1's forcing you to buy a new one.
(And thats not phasing out as in stopping selling them like every normal bussiness does, but turning off the ability for them to accept new tunes)

Even if thats now changed to six months, I still find it unacceptable action to take based on the actions of one dumb distributor.

Some fair comments, how about a suggestion of what you see as fair?

Now I am out of here to go and have a chat with my chosen tuner regarding this matter.

**CAT600** · 02-02-2009, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by bdave351

While trying to avoid the rant filter,

Im sorry Daniel, but I also have little faith.

As has been stated this morning by Herrods after his negotiations with SCT they are PHASING out the xcal1's forcing you to buy a new one.
(And thats not phasing out as in stopping selling them like every normal bussiness does, but turning off the ability for them to accept new tunes)

Even if thats now changed to six months, I still find it unacceptable action to take based on the actions of one dumb distributor.

There are two issues here:

1) (un named) and some of their dealers doing the wrong thing and getting everybody shut down on the spot. This is being resolved NOW
2) The gradual phase out of Xcal1's. This is going to happen anyway.

It happened in the US and it will happen here...... eventually. Dont assume that everything will last forever in life, I gave analogies of similar situations in life and people attacked the period of phase out, now that the phase out timeframe is being addressed, people will flip back to the "that's the way I bought it and it should last forever".

People need to get over it, make the most of now, plan for later and then look forward to the future developments and functionality of X3.

Back to the circle........Your Xcal1 will work till the day it dies.

Daniel

loony888 · 02-02-2009, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by bdave351

While trying to avoid the rant filter,

Im sorry Daniel, but I also have little faith.

As has been stated this morning by Herrods after his negotiations with SCT they are PHASING out the xcal1's forcing you to buy a new one.
(And thats not phasing out as in stopping selling them like every normal bussiness does, but turning off the ability for them to accept new tunes)

Even if thats now changed to six months, I still find it unacceptable action to take based on the actions of one dumb distributor.

that's not the way it reads,
rob herrod has stated there will be no 90 day limit, however you need to get your box registered through a tuner within a few weeks or the dongle that has been turned on will be turned off again (whatever the hell that means) which is fair enough, if they have had issues with piracy and they have appointed a new distributor they want to get their house in order and know what they have out there.
rob has also stated that he and sct are working on a fair phase out of the xcal1, what that does that mean? who knows, it doesn't sound like rob and sct know yet so how about taking things one at a time, we have our boxes back on, the phase out is in the future, who knows what will happen in the future armageddon could happen tomorrow.

having said all that, i for one will not buy or upgrade any sct product from anyone, ever. the farcical situation that has gone on the last few days has highlighted the selfish and unprofessional view sct have towards their customers. i will find an alternative.

paul.

FGII-XR6 · 02-02-2009, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by loony888

having said all that, i for one will not buy or upgrade any sct product from anyone, ever. the farcical situation that has gone on the last few days has highlighted the selfish and unprofessional view sct have towards their customers. i will find an alternative.

paul.

That is your choice of course but bear in mind this is the fault of ( un named ) whos unethical ( and possibly criminal ) actions caused SCT to react, all be it in an excessive manner at first . through negotiation and listening to end users a fair and equitable solution has been found and if we want continued support for our small ( by world standards) market we need to work with developers not against them.
the which hunt against SCT needs to stop if we are to acheive the best results for the future, If SCT feel that they will be boycotted by australia they will not be interested in future development and we will all suffer

SpoolMan · 02-02-2009, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by flappist

Bastards.....

I paid $88,000 for a BA GT-P and then 18 months later the bastards wanted another $40k for a new Mk2.........
I bought mine legitimately from a FPV dealer and it has only ever been driven in one country....

Thats Gold...

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Originally Posted by loony888

i for one will not buy or upgrade any sct product from anyone, ever. the farcical situation that has gone on the last few days has highlighted the selfish and unprofessional view sct have towards their customers. i will find an alternative.

paul.

Your choice, you had your say and no longer interested in there product, so you will no longer need to post in SCT threads, best leave it for those that are looking for information.