Ford confirms FPV brand will stay around, for now

roushfenway · 08-02-2013, 01:14 PM

http://smh.drive.com.au/motor-news/f...208-2e28l.html

Ford has confirmed its iconic GT will continue to be branded an FPV when production of the high-performance range re-commences next week.

Road_Warrior · 08-02-2013, 01:36 PM

No surprises there! I wonder if there will be a little price adjustment here or there to pass on the benefit of manufacturing efficiencies.

Bossxr8 · 08-02-2013, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Road_Warrior

No surprises there! I wonder if there will be a little price adjustment here or there to pass on the benefit of manufacturing efficiencies.

Sorry but I have to laugh at this. There's no way in hell Ford will even drop a dollar from the price. They want their $20 mil investment paid back and if anything they will probably de-content to help that. Ford are the masters of de-contenting.

rdmr · 08-02-2013, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Sorry but I have to laugh at this. There's no way in hell Ford will even drop a dollar from the price. They want their $20 mil investment paid back and if anything they will probably de-content to help that. Ford are the masters of de-contenting.

No decontenting from where I'm standing.

05_ENFORCER · 08-02-2013, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by rdmr

No decontenting from where I'm standing.

You guys need to come out of the closet, really.

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Road_Warrior · 08-02-2013, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Sorry but I have to laugh at this. There's no way in hell Ford will even drop a dollar from the price. They want their $20 mil investment paid back and if anything they will probably de-content to help that. Ford are the masters of de-contenting.

All I said was I wonder if they would, no need to get uptight about it.

Bossxr8 · 08-02-2013, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Road_Warrior

All I said was I wonder if they would, no need to get uptight about it.

You've taken it the wrong way, it was more tongue in cheek with a dose of reality.

DanielXR8 · 09-02-2013, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Road_Warrior

No surprises there! I wonder if there will be a little price adjustment here or there to pass on the benefit of manufacturing efficiencies.

They have cheapened the floor mats and added no new features. No need to thank them, its what Ford accountants do.

Joe5619 · 08-02-2013, 02:19 PM

I dont understand the "for now" part to the article?

Rodge · 09-02-2013, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe5619

I dont understand the "for now" part to the article?

Until the Mustang and Taurus arrive. The next Mustang will probably be here sometime next year.

Road_Warrior · 09-02-2013, 12:18 PM

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Until the Mustang and Taurus arrive. The next Mustang isn't all that far away and will probably be here sometime next year.

Hate to break it to you, but the Toreass 'aint coming here.

Rodge · 09-02-2013, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Road_Warrior

Hate to break it to you, but the Toreass 'aint coming here.

I'm heartbroken

FERG_51 · 08-02-2013, 02:20 PM

The GS needs to get a price drop imo.

SM1DY · 08-02-2013, 02:38 PM

The GS needs to get a name drop imo.

Bud Bud · 08-02-2013, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SM1DY

The GS needs to get a name drop imo.

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Originally Posted by FERG_51

The GS needs to get a price drop imo.

An SS priced XR8 should do the trick!

Bud Bud

EgoFG · 08-02-2013, 03:09 PM

Please Cancel this thread and recreate without the "For Now" this is a Ford Forum !

sbutler · 08-02-2013, 03:29 PM

The GS need some Brembos.!!!

knowsfords · 08-02-2013, 09:33 PM

I think ford should drop the XR6/T, rerelease it as the GS and add a "normal" coyote v8 option.

The original GS's were basically just a pov pack falcon with a stripe and a spoiler aimed at getting younger buyers into the seats.

jmac · 08-02-2013, 09:56 PM

yeah, drop the XR6T.. good one.

knowsfords · 08-02-2013, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jmac

yeah, drop the XR6T.. good one.

Well, it'd still be available just as an engine option under a new GS.

New GS should be

Pov pack falcon
GT Front and Rear Bar
XR rear wing
GS stripe
Range of engine options from the ecoboost, to the standard 6, to the xr6t six to a standard coyote v8

Half the problem with the falcon sales is that younger buyers can't afford the sportier range... same as in the 70s when the GS was introduced.

05_ENFORCER · 08-02-2013, 10:15 PM

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Half the problem with the falcon sales is that younger buyers can't afford the sportier range... same as in the 70s when the GS was introduced.

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Yep, nothing has changed and there is a reason for it

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Franco Cozzo · 09-02-2013, 09:40 AM

They should rename the GS to XR8

DanielXR8 · 09-02-2013, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by knowsfords

Well, it'd still be available just as an engine option under a new GS.

New GS should be

Pov pack falcon
GT Front and Rear Bar
XR rear wing
GS stripe
Range of engine options from the ecoboost, to the standard 6, to the xr6t six to a standard coyote v8

Half the problem with the falcon sales is that younger buyers can't afford the sportier range... same as in the 70s when the GS was introduced.

GS has already the pov pack XR6 interior and body kit as really its an XR8. Really it just needs the XR8 badge put on and a price adjustment.

I think if XR8 has any chance of being resurrected it will be this year, to try and take some wind out of the sails of the VF launch later this year.

sbutler · 10-02-2013, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by jmac

yeah, drop the XR6T.. good one.

Fully agree jmac Drop the XR6T
the best selling of all the performence car range, Now that makes sence..

jpd80 · 10-02-2013, 08:20 AM

Has anyone seen just how few I-6 Turbos are actually sold these days?
I think it would make scary viewing and I'm beginning to wonder whether the effort
to build them is not worth the return anymore, it may be cheaper/easier for Ford to
source and build their own NA 5.0 V8s on the existing mini line to replace the I-6

In fact,
I recon Ford should replace the I-6 with a short stroke 4.0 litre version of the 5.0 V8,
changing Falcon's image by giving it 250 Kw and 430 nm on a corporate engine design.
By making the basic version of Falcon Ecoboost, Ford can continue sub $40K product
whilst all the 4.0 V8s become +$40,000 sales because the 4.0 becomes more desirable to own...
G8, G8E XR8 with 4.0 & 5.0 V8s all sitting where they should while GS and GT remain unchanged.

It may sound insanely stupid but now that the Falcon no longer serves as a mostly fleet vehicle,
perhaps it's time to offer options that both attract and differentiate Falcon for mid sized alternatives.

rdmr · 10-02-2013, 08:44 AM

I-6Ts still make up a sizeable portion of the daily build. They are a halo model/engine and are a source of pride within the plant. Dropping it would be a great mistake. There is still a market for them so we should cater for it.
If anything it is the body of the XR6T that should change to make it more distinct/desirable from the everyday XR6.

4.0i OHC · 10-02-2013, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jpd80

Has anyone seen just how few I-6 Turbos are actually sold these days?
I think it would make scary viewing and I'm beginning to wonder whether the effort
to build them is not worth the return anymore, it may be cheaper/easier for Ford to
source and build their own NA 5.0 V8s on the existing mini line to replace the I-6

In fact,
I recon Ford should replace the I-6 with a short stroke 4.0 litre version of the 5.0 V8,
changing Falcon's image by giving it 250 Kw and 430 nm on a corporate engine design.
By making the basic version of Falcon Ecoboost, Ford can continue sub $40K product
whilst all the 4.0 V8s become +$40,000 sales because the 4.0 becomes more desirable to own...
G8, G8E XR8 with 4.0 & 5.0 V8s all sitting where they should while GS and GT remain unchanged.

It may sound insanely stupid but now that the Falcon no longer serves as a mostly fleet vehicle,
perhaps it's time to offer options that both attract and differentiate Falcon for mid sized alternatives.

You're right. It does sound insanely stupid.

What other mid sized car offers a turbocharged inline six? BMW 335i? Why replace it with an engine that performs worse, sounds worse, and doesn't differentiate itself from the hordes of V8s out there? It will cost a heap of money to re-engineer the car, therefore increasing the price of the end product (to not much less than the GS currently is, for a much worse performing car). I just can't see sales increasing at all.

There is a small subset of people who just have to have a V8, even if the turbo I6 is better, but these are mainly older people who would be more likely to own an XB or similar. There is the supercharged GS which actually delivers some decent performance. Most people (especially younger people who went through P plate restrictions) don't feel this way at all, and would be much more inclined to go for the quicker, torquier, more easily tunable inline six, which would be able to deliver much better times for a smaller outlay. Just look at FG XR6 turbo vs. FG XR8 sales up to the point when the XR8 was dropped. The sales of this new 4.0 XR8 replacement would be even worse.

You know, just because Holden does something, doesn't mean Ford has to copy it exactly.

Road_Warrior · 09-02-2013, 12:38 PM

^^^lmao

excopau · 09-02-2013, 01:54 PM

All these people want an XR8 badge, but you still won't buy it, look at it as an GS is higher spec with fpv badge,s you all will put fpv badges on an XR8 anyway lol

flooded one · 09-02-2013, 02:14 PM

why not have a V8 option on XT. you used too be able too get a base model V8 years ago.