[oldel]

Hybrids are bought by econobox toyota buyers that care about nothing except for reliable cheap transport.

Don't be that guy that tells people the car they want is wrong for *reasons* in real life. I say stuff here but in real life I say nothing. We all know small SUVs (small hatchbacks with a huge price upgrade only for a liftkit), people that buy cars based on the LCD and appleplay/streaming services and dual cab thai trucks are the "new BMW".

In other words, no one cares about a car anymore, fun police came out and the result is a lounge on wheels that is cheap to run (hybrid) or something that makes them look interesting, outdoorsy and tough, ie aspirational in the lifestyle way (own a thai truck because at any second I could go bush and camping - but never do) is the only criteria now.