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Originally Posted by simon varley

the change is already here and forums like this are already the exception. Buyers don't care about the driving any more. it is just a tool to get somewhere while being plugged in to social media

Just look at the new ads. Many don't even talk about the car. Just the colour its available in (T-Roc and T-Cross for example). And looking at Camry (and most Toyotas) sales in this country, people have long given up on the thrill of the drive. Look at all the boring Dual Cab Utes that would pull the skin of the proverbial.